Re: vnode_if.h: how should it be done ?

2000-06-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assar Westerlund writes: : Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assar Westerlund writes: : : The problem is that the source files are hidden in the kernel source : : directory and not installed. Where should vnode_if.{src,pl} get :

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-25 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Pritchard wrote: I just noticed that this change has now made a lot of the section 4 man pages out of date. What is the best way to represent these changes in the man pages? A good example is ata(4). Currently it reads like this: SYNOPSIS device isa device ata0 at isa?

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Jun 24, 2000, Kirk McKusick wrote: [snip] Kirk, do you still want to keep things that way ? Adrian Yes, I do want it kept as a yunefs option. [snip] Your above proposal would work, though that is not how NetBSD implemented it. I feel that it is a lot of extra

HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
Hola Mondo! The New /dev/random device is in but there are come caveats. 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! 2) If you do not have the randomdev module loaded, ssh will fail in strange and creative ways (like

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Jacques A . Vidrine
On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! I guess it follows that it is not a good idea to generate keys or certificates on -CURRENT for a while (until entropy

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
I guess it follows that it is not a good idea to generate keys or certificates on -CURRENT for a while (until entropy comes back to town)? Correct if they rely on /dev/random for entropy. I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy and which gather their own.

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: Hola Mondo! The New /dev/random device is in but there are come caveats. 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! 2) If you do not have the randomdev module loaded, ssh will fail

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
Hi Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. M Uhm, what about this: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../..

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: Hi Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. Well, I thought that was obvious :) Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. Well, I thought that was obvious :) Not really; folks do the darndest things. :-) Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make Do you have a full crypto

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. Well, I thought that was obvious :) Not really; folks do the darndest things. :-) Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made a new kernel with config -r and make depend then

Problems with nlist on -current?

2000-06-25 Thread Dampure, Pierre Y.
I installed 5.0-2621-CURRENT on a new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB RDRAM) and had problems with top / systat / vmstat all failing after reporting problems with nlist: When using top: top: nlist failed When using systat: systat: nlist: can't find following symbols:

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? Nope, just figured that out myself :) Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To

Vendor import of Perl 5.6

2000-06-25 Thread Dampure, Pierre Y.
Apologies if this has already been reported, but `make world` is currently failing when trying to generate Config.pm for the newly imported Perl 5.6 (failure at line 20 of configpm) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? Nope, just figured that out myself :) Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. Hmm, we also have another rule, and that

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. Hmm, we also have another rule, and that is to test before commit, the following patch is needed to make a current kernel with your resent commits compile :) Fooey. :-( This is what you get from too-heavy testing in

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. Hmm, we also have another rule, and that is to test before commit, the following patch is needed to make a current kernel with your resent commits compile :) Fooey. :-( This is what you

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
He he :) remember the patch to i386/i386/mem.c as that is also broken, the default statement is best used _inside_ a switch :) Yeah - I got that :-). That makes my kernel compile, but ssh doesn't work anymore, What are the symptoms? which might be due to world being broken due to your

Re: Fwd: WuFTPD: Providing *remote* root since at least1994

2000-06-25 Thread Matt Miller
On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 04:34:11PM -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 03:48:48PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: What about --enable-paranoid as part of the config ? As so much seems to be related to the site exec command, perhaps its best to just disable this ?

cvsup/cvs oddities?

2000-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it all of a sudden wants to run off the Freefall . U usr.sbin/ypset/Makefile U

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mark Murray wrote: He he :) remember the patch to i386/i386/mem.c as that is also broken, the default statement is best used _inside_ a switch :) Yeah - I got that :-). And the one to yarrow.c ?? That makes my kernel compile, but ssh doesn't work anymore, What are the

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy and which gather their own. Right. SSH and SSL should not be used: PGP should be okay. I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I was expecting

Re: cvsup/cvs oddities?

2000-06-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it all of a sudden wants to run off the

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It complains about libcrypto libssl not containing RSA, but it might be because make world is broken due to perl... This happens when a test RSA operation fails - but OpenSSH doesn't try to check why it fails and assumes it was because no RSA code

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I : was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do : everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an : indeterminate

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
And the one to yarrow.c ?? Done! What are the symptoms? It complains about libcrypto libssl not containing RSA, but it might be because make world is broken due to perl... That means the /dev/random driver is not loaded. /../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. Use of uninitialized

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an indeterminate period really bothers me. 1) I whined for reviews for long

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
It complains about libcrypto libssl not containing RSA, but it might be because make world is broken due to perl... This happens when a test RSA operation fails - but OpenSSH doesn't try to check why it fails and assumes it was because no RSA code even exists. It's probably more likely

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an indeterminate period really

Re: cvsup/cvs oddities?

2000-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it all of a sudden wants to run

world dies in libperl

2000-06-25 Thread Michael Harnois
cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl make build-tools Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Invalid conversion in sprintf: "%v" at

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Murray writes: : Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? : : Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Mark Murray
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Murray writes: : Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? : : Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. Much more than a week or two and I'd

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note in updating right now. That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work machines for the next

Config problems

2000-06-25 Thread Chuck Robey
I am getting a config error with the new gethints.pl stuff: unrecognized config token 1 This is with a newly cvsupped system, and I checked the version of gethints.pl: ROOT:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf:472 cvs status gethints.pl ===

prod for PR 15251

2000-06-25 Thread Kelly Yancey
Please review/commit PR 15251. It addresses a number of signedness issues in the sysctl code. While originally submitted almost 7 months ago, I have updated the PR with patches against a fairly recent -current. Thank you, Kelly -- Kelly Yancey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Belmont, CA

Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/ancontrol ancontrol.c

2000-06-25 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Nickolay Dudorov: The first line of the resulting file (with the $OpenBSD: tag) close the comment and makes this file uncompilable. [back from USENIX] Green fixed this in time but I'll remove the comment anyway as it wasn't supposed to be committed (we don't use the OpenBSD

Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Hi: I apologize for posting this to -current, but I really need to know how bad the damage is ASAP because I may need to reinstall. When I type 'startx' I get a message that libc.so.3 cannot be found and also a note about /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 I'm not sure how these two files are related.

Re: Config problems

2000-06-25 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help though. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade|

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Hi: I am using 4.0-STABLE John Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Config problems

2000-06-25 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help though. I'm about ready to post again, so this is good timing. I got the totally vague

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread Dan Papasian
This would probably be more appropriate on -questions. I take it the problem started when you updated? Sounds like you may need to recompile your X server or install compat3x (the latter is the sane choice) -Dan On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 11:46:24PM -0400, John Daniels wrote: Hi: I am using

Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6

2000-06-25 Thread Doug Barton
"Dampure, Pierre Y." wrote: Apologies if this has already been reported, but `make world` is currently failing when trying to generate Config.pm for the newly imported Perl 5.6 (failure at line 20 of configpm) Second that. Clean /usr/obj, make cleandir in /usr/src, problem still

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Hi: This would probably be more appropriate on -questions. Yes, that's why I apologized for posting it here. It has been posted on -questions for several hours but I haven't got an answer, it is getting very late on the east coast and I need to resolve this by tomorrow. Again, I apologize

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread Adam
Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: Hi: I apologize for posting this to -current, but I really need to know how bad the damage is ASAP because I may need to reinstall. When I type 'startx' I get a message that libc.so.3 cannot

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Hi: From: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it might've only been 'kernel source'). Is it possible

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread Dave
/stand/sysinstall go to the post install configure option then to Distribution sets and then to 3x compat libraries. It will prompt you to choose your install preference.FTP, CDROM, etc. On 26 Jun 2000, at 0:36, John Daniels wrote: Hi: From: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing the

Re: Config problems

2000-06-25 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
Well, I think maybe you have to put a number in if you want stuff wired down.. but basically I'm not sure if all the kinks have been worked out yet... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: Hi: From: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it might've

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Thanks everyone. I'll try your suggestions. John Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: Problems with nlist on -current?

2000-06-25 Thread Bernd Luevelsmeyer
Dampure, Pierre Y. wrote: I installed 5.0-2621-CURRENT on a new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB RDRAM) and had problems with top / systat / vmstat all failing after reporting problems with nlist: [...] At a guess, you don't use /boot/loader? The loader seems to be no longer optional, see

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread John Daniels
Using /stand/sysinstall to (re-) install compat3x solved the problem! It was really pretty quick and easy. Thanks again, everyone! John Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To

Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so

2000-06-25 Thread Adam
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: Hi: From: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it might've

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-25 Thread Donn Miller
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note in updating right now. That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their