Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : Do you claim ownership of all the drivers in cam/scsi, or can someone : with more tolerant religious convictions add a driver that's a clone : of the CD driver + MMC extensions that gets first crack at CDROM : drives, and recognizes MMC drives,

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher Masto
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:50:11PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Christopher Masto writes: I'd rather see cdrecord work on ATAPI CD-Rs. burncd gives me a lot of trouble. As cdrecord isn't part of FreeBSD, this is clearly the wrong place to ask about that. Joe Schilling watches [EMAIL

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh writes: Having said this, if you can come up with a foolproof way to get the ioctls right on all the drives that do support them, even the whacked out ones that need all kinds of quirky entries, and do it in a way that doesn't needlessly bloat the kernel for little gain (few

Re: Sound support in -CURRENT

2000-08-22 Thread Munehiro Matsuda
From: Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:04:46 +0300 :: Hi FreeBSD fans and developers... :: :: This is my first question in -CURRENT. :: :: Yesterday was the first time I tried to follow the -STABLE line. And I must :: admit that once again FreeBSD amazed me ;) :: ::

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Matthew Jacob
If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time? 'coz we're taking a page from

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : You may well be right, and there are good technical reasons for not : doing this. The only real reason that's been presented for not doing : MMC is that all the non-MMC drives might cause a support : headache. There are sound technical reasons for

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Matthew Jacob writes: If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time? 'coz

Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Walter Belgers
Hi, Last week I was at USENIX where Niels Provos talked about his implementation of encrypted swap in OpenBSD. What is does is encrypting all memory that gets swapped out, keeping the encryption keys in memory. A test showed that all kinds of interesting things wind up in the swap partition;

RE: Question from a neophyte... Why isn't rc.local being read?

2000-08-22 Thread Johan Kruger
Make sure it's not commented out in rc # Run rc.devfs if readable to customize devfs # if [ -r /etc/rc.devfs ]; then sh /etc/rc.devfs fi # Do traditional (but rather obsolete) rc.local file if it exists. If you # use this file and want to make it programmatic, source

RE: error sysinstall

2000-08-22 Thread Johan Kruger
Probably need a newer sysinstall, now uses character devices Where did you get this sysinstall from, is in on a boot floppy ? If it is, then either the kernel with it's devices doesn't work with the sysinstall you use, or the devices do not exist. On your PC, do a make depend ; make ; make

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Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Hi ... I have a 5.0-current .. kernel compiled of a day or so ago. When I'm using Realplayer7 or plaympeg (package smpeg) to play real audio or mpegs I just get this load "hissing" noise. When I use mpg123 to play a mp3 the sound is OK .. CD sound works fine and games too. Any idea why

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local? I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now. OTOH, I also have a symlink from /usr/local - /opt due to a

Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
Hi All Please could those of you with the time and computrons available please review the patches for the entropy (/dev/random) driver at http://people.freebsd.org/~markm/randomdev.patch. NOTES: This code may injure your cat, your computer and/or your bank account; be careful! The code puts

Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Dit another test ... Used mpg123 with the "-m" option for mono sound (all the thins that "broke" was in mono) and got the same noise ... seems like "mono" sound for the 740C Yamaha is broken ?? Reinier On 22-Aug-00 Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote: Hi ... I have a 5.0-current .. kernel

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
They can also be made by the driver using make_dev_alias(). Cool! Man page please? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do I get somebody to work on it? ;-) Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least one guaranteed answer to that :-) M -- Mark Murray Join the

Re: problems with /usr/bin/awk

2000-08-22 Thread Nik Clayton
Tony, On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 07:17:31PM -0700, Tony Fleisher wrote: I have been running cvsup nightly to grab -current and -ports, and noticed some strangeness with awk that seemed to start last week sometime. When building /usr/ports/lang/guile, the build exited with an awk 'internal

Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Roger Hardiman
Reinier seems like "mono" sound for the 740C Yamaha is broken ?? I found 'mono' audio was broken on my Yamaha 724F PCI card at the weekend. Cameron said several users have reported this and he has reworked the code in -current to hopefully work around this problem. Roger To Unsubscribe:

Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Roger .. I cvs-ed the sources for the kernel from yesterday .. but I'll get the latest ones now .. I'm just not sure if Cameron has committed the changes yet .. but in any case ... thanx Cameron !! :) Rgds Reinier On 22-Aug-00 Roger Hardiman wrote: Reinier seems like "mono" sound for the

Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Roger Hardiman
Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote: Roger .. I cvs-ed the sources for the kernel from yesterday .. but I'll get the latest ones now .. I'm just not sure if Cameron has committed the changes yet .. but in any case ... thanx Cameron !! :) Cameron changed the 'feeder' code which drives the cards.

Re: Anyone have newmidi working?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2819 18:15], Brian Fundakowski Feldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Newmidi doesn't seem to work. The oplsbc device handling had to be hacked a bit to support non-PnP SBs, but that's inconsequential. It probes and boots fine. It seems that newmidi is completely disconnected from actually

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 08:50], Warner Losh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Actually, the real reason is that MMC drives that mostly support the standard, but do it wrong in ways that are hard to detect. Those are going to be the worst to try to support. There are some drives out there that just hang when

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 06:25], Kenneth D. Merry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It needs an ATAPI passthrough mechanism to work. (FreeBSD doesn't have one at the moment.) Søren, Matt and me were discussing the ATA/CAM issues so that we might be able to approach ATA through CAM. That would clear a lot

make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. -=-=- === libexec/fingerd cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -c /src/src/libexec/fingerd/fi ngerd.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -o fingerd fingerd.o -lutil

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make sense. It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same (haven't checked recently what

Crash - Build World - Fatal double fault: eip esp ebp

2000-08-22 Thread Bill G.
I have searched the mailing lists, to no avail (hope I did not miss the answer). I am getting the following output on make world (FreeBSD 5.0-2820-CURRENT installed, cvsup current source at 11:00AM Eastern Time).. Fatal double fault: eip = 0xc030343c esp = 0xcd025000 ebp = 0xcd025074

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make sense. It would make even make more sense

Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Walter Belgers wrote: Last week I was at USENIX where Niels Provos talked about his implementation of encrypted swap in OpenBSD. What is does is encrypting all memory that gets swapped out, keeping the encryption keys in memory. A test showed that all kinds of

Kernel panic on fxp

2000-08-22 Thread Patrick Gardella
I've been working for a while to try to figure out a problem I'm having here. I did a buildworld Sunday, and started to get kernel panics on boot when it probed fxp. So I removed fxp from my kernel and loaded it as a module (via loader.conf.local). It paniced. Then I unloaded the if_fxp.ko on

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Paul Richards
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: -On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make sense

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:25:50 +0100, Paul Richards wrote: Is there any current policy on what libc is? For some reason, I seem to remember Bruce Evans once calling it "the kitchen sink". :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Nate Williams
Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make sense. It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same (haven't checked recently what they do) and do the merge. I

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. Agreed

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
A growing libc makes static binaries grow and makes it more difficult to strip out unneeded functionality from a minimalist system install. I'd been inclined to try and move things the other way and strip stuff out of libc into separate libraries but that's obviously not in vogue at the

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:09 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. No. This is precisely why shared

Strange messages on -CURRENT

2000-08-22 Thread Alexander N. Kabaev
I am seeing these messages on the -CURRENT box as of FreeBSD kanpc.gte.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Aug 14 10:04:38 EDT 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/KANPC i386 Aug 22 13:07:40 kanpc /kernel: unexpected vn driver lock: 0xc8010d40: type VREG, usecount 2,

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE. It would be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek and read from a CD. I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of this issue :( Would you be adverse to

Re: Kernel panic on fxp

2000-08-22 Thread Bosko Milekic
PLEASE read this: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hackers.html#AEN4885 Basically, by just looking at the page fault message, this appears to be the dereferencing of a NULL pointer. That's all that I'm afraid pretty much anybody will be able to conclude from this unless

Re: compaq proliant

2000-08-22 Thread David TOUITOU
On 21 Aug 2000, at 21:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone gotten freebsd (current or other) running on one of these? Which Proliant model are you talking about? i've tried 4.0, 4.1, and -current, and the kernel panics on me with the following: sym0: 895a port 0x1000=0x10ff

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 15:22:05 -0400, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE. It would be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek and read from a CD. I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it doesn't work

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:09 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend

Re: compaq proliant

2000-08-22 Thread Joel Jacobson
sym0: 895a port 0x1000=0x10ff mem 0xb110-0xb1101fff,0xb140-0xb14003ff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1 sym0: failed to allocate RAM resources We're running 3.4-STABLE on a Proliant 3000 here, and it's working great. Mind you, this has a Symbios 875 based controller, not 895a

Re: Kernel panic on fxp

2000-08-22 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick Gardella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working for a while to try to figure out a problem I'm having here. I did a buildworld Sunday, and started to get kernel panics on boot when it probed fxp. So I removed fxp from my kernel and loaded it as a

Re: Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Donn Miller
Mark Murray wrote: Hi All Please could those of you with the time and computrons available please review the patches for the entropy (/dev/random) driver at http://people.freebsd.org/~markm/randomdev.patch. I'm getting some errors trying to build this. Attached is my make.log that shows

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2000-08-22 Thread vacuum
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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Laurence Berland
On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm looking in the wrong place. Laurence "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: [snip] -- Laurence Berland Windows

error with fetchmail + sendmail

2000-08-22 Thread undergra
Helo, yesterday i actualiced from FreeBSD 4.1 to FreeBSD 5.0 current. and i am having some problems whith sendmail and fetchmail. the sendmail version is 8.11.0. the problem began whit this file aliases.db because as the sendmail logs said, it wasnt able to see this file at /etc/mail. so i made a

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 20:43:15 -0400, Laurence Berland wrote: On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm looking in the wrong place. I

buildworld dies undefined reference to crypt_des

2000-08-22 Thread Peter Jeremy
The `building everything' stage of make buildworld is dying as below. The following patch fix lets my buildworld get beyond that point (but it's still running so I don't know if there are problems elsewhere). (I don't think the patch is the right fix, but it solved my immediate problem). Index:

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. No. This is precisely why shared libraries have dependencies. For static

Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do I get somebody to work on it? ;-) Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least one guaranteed answer to that :-)

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Brian Fundakowski Feldman writes: One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE. It would be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek and read from a CD. I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of

Re: Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
I'm getting some errors trying to build this. Attached is my make.log that shows the errors. The one that's there now should fix this (I forgot to include a 1-line patch to sys/conf/files). Thanks! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Jacques A. Vidrine writes: On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local? I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now. OTOH, I also have a symlink