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2001-03-11 Thread Daniel Mester
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Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it...

2001-03-11 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-) Uh,

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 12:03:34AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: On Saturday, 10 March 2001 at 17:12:42 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: (top of tree within the last day or so): Things seem *almost* okay, but: nellie.feral.com root vinum

make installworld 'kinda' broken in perl

2001-03-11 Thread Julian Elischer
I often do 'make buildworld' on one machine and on many other machines I do: mount -r /usr/src mount -r /usr/obj through nfs so I can do a 'make installworld' using the prebuilt system. Unfortunatly the perl distribution is trying to write back to /usr/obj or /usr/src. it is the only place

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 02:29] wrote: I'll sneak in my experience with DEVFS+vinum here as well: vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3s1f vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1s1e vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da2s1e

growfs

2001-03-11 Thread Andrea Campi
I was about to fill in a doc PR on this but then I thought I'm better off checking other people experiences... I just used growfs on my / filesystem, after shrinking the swap partition which just happened to be after it. I had to do nothing magic beside dropping to single user so as to have a ro

Re: make installworld 'kinda' broken in perl

2001-03-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: I often do 'make buildworld' on one machine and on many other machines I do: mount -r /usr/src mount -r /usr/obj through nfs so I can do a 'make installworld' using the prebuilt system. Unfortunatly the perl distribution is trying to

panic trying to play Civillization (with trace, etc.)

2001-03-11 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hi! All of a sudden I can't play my game :( The new kernels all crash just trying to start the executable... Here is the trace with my attempts to browse through it. The bzip2-ed kernel and vmcore, as well as the /sys subtree are available for examination at:

-CURRENT no longer boots

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #51: Sun Mar 11 17:31:08 CET 2001

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs vinum does. Why not? make_dev_alias() is cheap and easy to use. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: growfs

2001-03-11 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:13:38 +0100 Andrea Campi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AC I was about to fill in a doc PR on this but then I thought I'm better off AC checking other people experiences... A completely different question about growfs - is it fit for -stable ? If so could it be MFC'd

Re: libg2c missing?

2001-03-11 Thread Leif Neland
Solved! I had NO_FORTRAN=true on master, but not on slave. After I sync'ed the make.conf's, I could install. Leif - Original Message - From: "Leif Neland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: libg2c missing? I've got two machines,

Threaded linux should work again

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
I fixed the bug in linux_clone() that made caused the 'not SRUN' panics in -CURRENT. Opera, Tivoli and other threaded Linux apps should now work again. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 09:02] wrote: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs vinum does. Why not? make_dev_alias() is cheap and easy to use. Take a look at the /dev/vinum tree under devfs and

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. Yes, ideally, yes. I'm hacking the man page now..

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 12:02] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. Yes, ideally, yes. The problem with

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 12:02] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. Really? That's a deficiency.

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one detects a devfs system in a running system. There's an example in the vinum(8) source: if (sysctlbyname("vfs.devfs.generation", NULL, NULL, NULL, 0) == 0) devfs_is_active = 1; else

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one detects a devfs system in a running system. Why should you care? Because if the system doesn't have devfs, the userland vinum code needs to create the device nodes "manually". DES

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On 11 Mar 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one detects a devfs system in a running system. Why should you care? Because if the system doesn't have devfs, the userland vinum code

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you use vinum. Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
I think I'm assuming that DEVFS will become standard. I really see it working very very well and solving lots of problems. I have yet to really find cases where it really *can't* work (modulo broken drivers). Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Sounds to me more like an

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you use vinum. Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. Har har har har har Almost a Catch-22... "We have to do really wierd things so vinum will work

Re: panic trying to play Civillization (with trace, etc.)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the trace with my attempts to browse through it. If you can, please reproduce the panic on a kernel compiled with the INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT and WITNESS options. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you use vinum. Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. Har har har har har Please take your sarcasm and shove

swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David Wolfskill
During the past week, I've been tracking -STABLE (daily) -CURRENT (about 2 days out of 3) on a new laptop. (More stuff about that in the recent -mobile archives, for folks who might have an interest.) Although I realize that there are significant differences between the FreeBSD mfs vs. the Sun

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:17:58 -0800 (PST) David Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: david Accordingly, I created the following shell script to accomplish a david similar objective, based upon the above-mentioned example in the david mdconfig man page. At present, I have it sitting in david

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. Yes, ideally, yes. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:11:09PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. It should be a wrapper called mount_mdfs or mount_mfs so people upgrading can keep their

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 02:29] wrote: I'll sneak in my experience with DEVFS+vinum here as well: vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3s1f vinum: updating configuration

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:15:27PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:11:09PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. It should be a

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David Wolfskill
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:11:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hajimu UMEMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. I appreciate the validation that what I'm

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Dima Dorfman
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:15:27PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: It should be a wrapper called mount_mdfs or mount_mfs so people upgrading can keep their /etc/fstab [mostly] the same. The latter would be best, IMO. I wrote a program to do this, but

make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira
Hi, Is there anything against adding support for k6-3 to the just added CPUTYPE mechanism? :) My little machine feels left out. Hehehhe I made a simple patch to etc/defaults/make.conf and share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk Should I have touched anything else? Regards,

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 12:19] wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 12:02] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 15:21] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs vinum does. The only symlinks that the non-devfs version makes are to the drives. Everything else is

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
Yeah... don't really need that. :) In vinum's case there's a directory /dev/vinum/drive that points to the device backing the vinum device: /dev/vinum % ls -lR total 7 brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0x4001 Sep 26 1999 Control brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0x4002 Sep 26

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 20:45] wrote: Yeah... don't really need that. :) In vinum's case there's a directory /dev/vinum/drive that points to the device backing the vinum device: /dev/vinum % ls -lR total 7 brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0x4001 Sep 26

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Boris Popov
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: What's up with devfs not gc'ing itself? Ie, after a directory becomes empty it seems to still exist within the devfs namespace instead of disappearing. That was a deliberate decision,

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Boris Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 20:52] wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: What's up with devfs not gc'ing itself? Ie, after a directory becomes empty it seems to still exist within the devfs namespace

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 15:21] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs vinum does. The only symlinks that the

FYI: nfs performance suboptimal

2001-03-11 Thread Warner Losh
Warning: The following is a somewhat vague report, given as a fyi. I don't need a resolution on this problem, but wanted to report it. NFS server: Sony VAIO PCG-505TS uname -a: FreeBSD anvil.village.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #569: Sat Mar 10 13:17:30 MST 2001 (really

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:11:09 PST, Kris Kennaway wrote: We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. Hello? Anybody there? Am I alone in this universe? Throw the goddamned ball!

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: Hi, Is there anything against adding support for k6-3 to the just added CPUTYPE mechanism? :) My little machine feels left out. Hehehhe I made a simple patch to etc/defaults/make.conf and

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 21:20] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 15:21] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Maxim Sobolev
--AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= ote: Hi, =20 Is there anything against adding support for k6-3

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= ote: Hi, =20 Is there anything

Re: occasional filesystem corruption

2001-03-11 Thread Boris Popov
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Vallo Kallaste wrote: I have experienced two filesystem corruption cases recently. Both took place in /usr filesystem, the first was file with very big [skip] lock order reversal ../../kern/kern_synch.c:429: sleeping with "vnode interlock" locked from