Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:09:10PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:20:46AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: : On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 07:06:54PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: : If you use

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Nope, what David was _actually_ trying to say is to hold off with WARNS fixes until GCC 3.1 becomes our compiler, because otherwise this is an almost 100% duplicate of efforts, as GCC 3.1 is so WARNS-different from GCC 2.95.3. And of course David should add NO_WERROR

RE: Making bootable recovery CD using cdboot/loader fails

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Reifenberger
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, John Baldwin wrote: ... Its the loader after showing: ... loader Revision... (root@nihil, ...) ... And then a few rotating -\|/ (serching or loading loader.conf, kernel, ?) Then silence. Hmm. Is your loader completely up to date? Does it have a BIOS CD device

RE: Making bootable recovery CD using cdboot/loader fails

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Reifenberger
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, John Baldwin wrote: ... ... loader Revision... (root@nihil, ...) ... And then a few rotating -\|/ (serching or loading loader.conf, kernel, ?) Then silence. Hmm. Is your loader completely up to date? Does it have a BIOS CD device cd0 in the output prior to

See Real Babes (0384CuMg3-126YqKc6577@20)

2002-02-06 Thread cans23840361
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed;boundary==_NextPart_000_00C4_03E14D8D.A0707E67

Re: Promise/ATA-Raid making panic in -CURRENT?

2002-02-06 Thread Tom Servo
I checked and compiled the recent -CURRENT tree, buildworld and buildkernel goes all fine. When booting it seems to crash on initialization of my Promise controller and get bad ivar request (4). I stripped all possible drivers out of the kernelconfig, except for the ata driver,

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread BOUWSMA Beery
Serwoas! %s wrote on %.3s, %lld Sep 1993 Could it be due to the DDB, INVARIANTS WITNESS options in the kernel? If it is that's fine with me, I'm just wondering where that magnitude of a slowdown would be coming from. WITNESS can really hurt. Quite possibly I should turn it off in

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
John Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me hijack this a little. How many of you WARNS= adding people consider different compile/code paths than the one your machine exercise? For instance the one make release will exercise? The WARNS=1 in libexec/Makefile.inc breaks make release because

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Murray
John Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me hijack this a little. How many of you WARNS= adding people consider different compile/code paths than the one your machine exercise? For instance the one make release will exercise? The WARNS=1 in libexec/Makefile.inc breaks make release because

Re: MFREE()

2002-02-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
:The following files under sys/ still use MFREE(): : :alpha/tc/am7990.c :netatm/port.h :security/lomac/kernel_socket.c : :Please fix. : : :Cheers, :-- :Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, Please review the following patch. Note that the KB_ macros in netatm could be further

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 6 Feb, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Anything else I should check? I realize there's about a million differences between the two branches, and there might also be something about my machine's setup which is a major culprit here. I'm just looking for a basic idea of what other people have

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Nope, what David was _actually_ trying to say is to hold off with WARNS fixes until GCC 3.1 becomes our compiler, because otherwise this is an almost 100% duplicate of efforts, as GCC 3.1 is so WARNS-different from GCC

ThinkPad X22 PC-Card slot problem

2002-02-06 Thread non
I recently installed -current to ThinkPad X22. Though it seems that X22's PC-Card slots work fine with -stable, in -current when probing PCICs I got following message, pcic0: Ricoh RL5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5000-0x5fff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci2 pcib2: device pcic0 requested

Re: ThinkPad X22 PC-Card slot problem

2002-02-06 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I recently installed -current to ThinkPad X22. Though it seems that X22's PC-Card slots work fine with -stable, in -current when probing PCICs I got following message, pcic0: Ricoh RL5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5000-0x5fff irq 11

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread Steve Ames
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:02:34AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On 06-Feb-02 Garance A Drosihn wrote: Could it be due to the DDB, INVARIANTS WITNESS options in the kernel? If it is that's fine with me, I'm just wondering where that magnitude of a slowdown would be coming from. WITNESS

Lock order reversals, login-related, maybe...

2002-02-06 Thread BOUWSMA Beery
Are the following lock order reversals something that I should mention when I encounter them, in general? On the other hand, this is from an older -current, built 25.Jan, before which I don't see these messages, while after installworld/reboot, I see them, except I haven't normally booted into

How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 6 Feb, Mark Murray wrote: [...] a project as important as GCC3 [...] BTW, how about, may be, if the stars are right, bringing in the Java support too? gcj is now one of the compilers, that come with the GCC package... And it is promising -- it can compile Java into byte code or

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:02:34AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: WITNESS can really hurt. Quite possibly I should turn it off in GENERIC now (I wouldn't mind if someone else did that.) I think it should stay. Especially as we are not getting much usage in -CURRENT. If we turn it off by

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 12:10:05AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: On current On stable -- -- real7m 43.392s 4m 53.100sin /usr/src for current user0m 11.692s 0m 4.203s sys 3m 4.601s 0m 2.248s real6m 40.322s

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:21:07AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: Well, I think that's true: no one is saying you can't fix the warnings you find by turning up the warning level. Well... it would be nice if people would do CORRECT fixes. From some things DES was saying, people are making some

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 11:12:38AM +, Mark Murray wrote: IMO, this is a good reason to not have WARNS contain -Werror at this time. NO_WERROR is a good way to fix this (again IMO). I see a great need to let warnings hang out, and in an ideal world I see an need for (new) warnings to break

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 6 Feb, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 11:19:19AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: BTW, how about, may be, if the stars are right, bringing in the Java support too? gcj is now one of the compilers, that come with the GCC package... Uh, NO! It is not needed by the base

Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread Emiel Kollof
Take a look ath this diff: --- /etc/nsmb.conf Wed Jan 30 05:31:21 2002 +++ ./etc/nsmb.conf Wed Feb 6 16:20:55 2002 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# $FreeBSD: src/etc/nsmb.conf,v 1.4 2002/01/29 00:23:34 cjc Exp $ +# $FreeBSD: src/etc/nsmb.conf,v 1.3 2002/01/07 08:41:55 sheldonh Exp $ # # smbfs

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread Emiel Kollof
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:10, Garance A Drosihn wrote: [performance complaint snip] Could it be due to the DDB, INVARIANTS WITNESS options in the kernel? If it is that's fine with me, I'm just wondering where that magnitude of a slowdown would be coming from. I would think so (iow,

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Murray
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 11:12:38AM +, Mark Murray wrote: IMO, this is a good reason to not have WARNS contain -Werror at this time. NO_WERROR is a good way to fix this (again IMO). I see a great need to let warnings hang out, and in an ideal world I see an need for (new) warnings to

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
Diffs like there show up for COUNTLESS times in mergemaster. In fact, nothing changed except the cvs id. Why am I asked about these in mergemaster? Is there a way to ignore files that only have the cvsid changed? This would speed up the mergemaster run considerably... mergemaster only

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
David == David W Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David mergemaster only checks to see if RCSID's are different by David default, I forget which option, but there is one to actually David diff the two files when doing its inital compare, but the David RCSID's would be different

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
The real question here is: why is the RCSid changing when the file isn't? Sometimes things get changed and then backed out to their original state, but you cannot keep the original RCSID To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:13 AM -0800 2/6/02, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:02:34AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: WITNESS can really hurt. Quite possibly I should turn it off in GENERIC now (I wouldn't mind if someone else did that.) I think it should stay. Especially as we are not getting much

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Uh, NO! It is not needed by the base system. We really do not want to turn on all the support libs, etc.. that would be needed with this. There is a reason the gcc30 port takes 25 minutes to compile on a fast 1.2 GHz

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
David == David W Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Sometimes things get changed and then backed out to their David original state, but you cannot keep the original RCSID I can see that happening on the head, but this also happens on stable ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
I can see that happening on the head, but this also happens on stable ... One example of it happening to -stable was the addittion of www to master.passwd, www has been added and removed a few times from -stable. I'm not trying to say that this explains all the times that it happens, just

Binutils fixed in -current?

2002-02-06 Thread jordan . breeding
I read recently on this list that the problem with the -current binutils on Alphas had been fixed, did this also fix the problem on i386 which caused ports such as imlib, imlib2 and gnomelibs to behave weirdly as many of their binaries would segfault during configuring/linking/executing? I

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 6 Feb, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Uh, NO! It is not needed by the base system. We really do not want to turn on all the support libs, etc.. that would be needed with this. There is a reason the gcc30 port takes 25 minutes

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Peek
At 11:34 AM -0700 2/6/02, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: David == David W Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David mergemaster only checks to see if RCSID's are different by David default, I forget which option, but there is one to actually David diff the two files when doing its

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
What I think mergemaster should do is compere the file with the original checked out one it claims to be and if it's the same, it should just update silently.. i.e. if the user didn't change anything in th old one he's unlikely to want to change anything in the new one (maybe a datafile

Re: Mergemaster niggle

2002-02-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
What I think mergemaster should do is compere the file with the original checked out one it claims to be and if it's the same, it should just update silently.. i.e. if the user didn't change anything in th old one he's unlikely to want to change anything in the new one (maybe a

Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
for the set of patches at: http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/adiff these patches SHOULD NOT EFFECT your system except to do some slight re-aranging of stuff in the kernel. THe aim is to get this committed to 'clarify' the upcoming KSE commit in http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/thediff which

Max size of a process in FreeBSD.

2002-02-06 Thread Adam Nealis
I can't find the answer to this in a handbook search - I can never get the right terms together 8(. But I read this on google:

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:52:40PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: But alright, let's say -- ports. gcj and gcjh themselves are installed by the several lang/gcc* ports, but they are not functional (libgcj/libjava are not ported). As a ports committer I might try to

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020206 12:20] wrote: for the set of patches at: http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/adiff these patches SHOULD NOT EFFECT your system except to do some slight re-aranging of stuff in the kernel. THe aim is to get this committed to 'clarify' the upcoming

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 12:32:18PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020206 12:20] wrote: for the set of patches at: http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/adiff these patches SHOULD NOT EFFECT your system except to do some slight re-aranging of stuff in

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 7 Feb, Max Khon wrote: dynamically linked libiberty would be a nightmare. libbfd anf libiberty do not have version numbers, are not maintained (i.e. there is no official releases). every project includes its own libiberty and imho an attempt to find least common denominator will

Re: Binutils fixed in -current?

2002-02-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
Does anyone know if the problem with kde and other programs not working with the new binutils not working have been fixed yet? -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To

Re: Binutils fixed in -current?

2002-02-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020206 12:33] wrote: Does anyone know if the problem with kde and other programs not working with the new binutils not working have been fixed yet? I find that mozilla 0.9.8 dies with pure virtual called or something to that effect, however I don't

Re: usb mouse won't work

2002-02-06 Thread Doug White
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Peter Schultz wrote: FreeBSD does not want to work with my USB mouse. I believe it to be a problem with the motherboard, a Tyan S1834. The mouse does work under BeOS and Windows so I know it's not toast. Also, the mouse works with FreeBSD on my Tyan S1832 motherboard

Re: Bizzare problem..

2002-02-06 Thread Doug White
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Jacob Frelinger wrote: I have a new current system that is having the strangest problem. using vi or its clones often abruptly powers the system down, no panics, no syslog messages. the computer is an ABIT BP6 w/ 2 500 mhz cellerons (NOT OVERCLOCKED), two harddrives, a

Re: Max size of a process in FreeBSD.

2002-02-06 Thread Doug White
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Adam Nealis wrote: I think I've done due diligence, so may I respectfully ask if anyone can tell me what is the largest size in main RAM a process can have under FreeBSD? It's limited to MAXDSIZ (max data size). You can raise this up to 2GB or so, but you will eventually

ACPI error Method execution failed, AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT

2002-02-06 Thread Hendrik Scholz
Hi! I updated my notebook from -stable to -current some days ago and get this message ~ every second: ACPI-0294: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994

Re: Bizzare problem..

2002-02-06 Thread Jacob Frelinger
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:08:10PM -0800, Doug White wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Jacob Frelinger wrote: You aren't using a Linux version of vi, are you? It so happens a common freebsd system call maps to linux reboot() it shouldn't be. [jolly@spooky ~]# which vi /usr/bin/vi

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 12:10 AM -0500 2/6/02, Garance A Drosihn wrote: One simple test I tried was that I have a copy of the freebsd cvs repository in /usr/cvs/free, on it's own partition. Each system has it's own /usr/src, of course. I cvsup'ed /usr/cvs/free, and then did a time cvs status /dev/null in each

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well... it would be nice if people would do CORRECT fixes. From some things DES was saying, people are making some really stupid fixes just to quite warnings. Esp. WRT const. Yes, the YP code is full of strdup()s that have no purpose other than to

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Julian Elischer writes: for the set of patches at: http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/adiff these patches SHOULD NOT EFFECT your system except to do some slight re-aranging of stuff in the kernel. Today's alpha kernel, plus those changes results in a ksp not valid halt with the PC

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin writes: Since thread0 is no longer a pointer, this looks suspicious in locore.s: /* * Switch to proc0's PCB. */ ldq t0,thread0 /* get phys addr of pcb */ ldq a0,TD_MD_PCBPADDR(t0)

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Barcroft
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon guys: it is not so long ago (days..) that the Alpha started buildworlding -current again. Alpha builds tend to take much longer (on most people's hardware that is) so a bit of patience would be nice. FWIW: I'm trying to get 2 of my Alphas to go

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:20:16PM -0500, Mike Barcroft wrote: Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon guys: it is not so long ago (days..) that the Alpha started buildworlding -current again. Alpha builds tend to take much longer (on most people's hardware that is) so a bit of

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 03:46:22PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: dynamically linked libiberty would be a nightmare. libbfd anf libiberty do not have version numbers, are not maintained (i.e. there is no official releases). every project includes its own libiberty and imho an

Re: ThinkPad X22 PC-Card slot problem

2002-02-06 Thread non
From: Takanori Watanabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 23:16:21 +0900 I recently installed -current to ThinkPad X22. Though it seems that X22's PC-Card slots work fine with -stable, in -current when probing PCICs I got following message, : How about disabling ACPI? If this

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
I don't know the alpha at all but how about leaq t0, thread0 or some similar thing or even.. ldq t0,$thread0 or something similar.. who's assembler is being used? On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Andrew Gallatin writes: Since thread0 is no longer a pointer, this

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Jake Burkholder
Apparently, On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:17:38PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin said words to the effect of; Andrew Gallatin writes: Since thread0 is no longer a pointer, this looks suspicious in locore.s: /* * Switch to proc0's PCB. */

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
Ok so since I don't know alpha assembly. can it be changed to teh address of the thread0 structure? (I'll bet the same thing needs to be done on the other architectures) THANKS! On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Julian Elischer writes: for the set of patches at:

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Joe Kelsey
It is plain that many people will want to be able to install a version of gcc that is officially supported and that also includes *all* of the standard platforms that come as part of the gcc release. What is so wrong with being able to specify a compilation flag that says install all of the

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Jake Burkholder writes: What's the right way to do this? I think you want lda, its used to load an address constant in support.s: lda t0, fusufault /* trap faults */ Bingo! Thanks.. I haven't done any alpha assembler in nearly a year.. Julian -- you need to

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:23:32PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: It is plain that many people will want to be able to install a version of gcc that is officially supported and that also includes *all* of the standard platforms that come as part of the gcc release. You do realize that means Ada for

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon guys: it is not so long ago (days..) that the Alpha started buildworlding -current again. I tried, and the new kernel blew up at start-up with an unaligned access. GENERIC went farther, but died when /etc/rc redundandly tried to load the osf1

LINT FREE() breakage.

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
eni_transmit.o: In function `eni_output': eni_transmit.o(.text+0x3aa): undefined reference to `MFREE' eni_transmit.o(.text+0x3be): undefined reference to `MFREE' eni_transmit.o(.text+0x47a): undefined reference to `MFREE' fore_output.o: In function `fore_xmit_segment':

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Joe Kelsey
David O'Brien writes: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:23:32PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: It is plain that many people will want to be able to install a version of gcc that is officially supported and that also includes *all* of the standard platforms that come as part of the gcc release.

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
THANKS! (3 down, 2 to go..) On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Jake Burkholder wrote: Apparently, On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 12:01:44PM -0800, Julian Elischer said words to the effect of; for the set of patches at: http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/adiff these patches SHOULD NOT EFFECT your

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Mikhail Teterin wrote: That's the thing. gcc30 port, essentially, installs a copy of the compiler already available as part of the base. But the base is missing gcj (the port does too for now), so one would be forced to add the port. Compilers from ports suck. If you set DESTDIR, it

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: But the base is missing gcj (the port does too for now), so one would be forced to add the port. And the base system does not NEED a java compiler. Or perl. 8-) -- Terry To Unsubscribe:

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Mikhail Teterin wrote: And the base system does not NEED a java compiler. Alright. But a FreeBSD installation -- might. This bears on the fundamental problem of using the install tools that come with external source code in order to do installs. Probably, it should be built by a make

Re: Not committing WARNS settings...

2002-02-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I am starting to think all WARNS cleanup patches should be posted to : audit and have an Approved by: audit or any of our accepted very : knowledgeable C standards people. I think this is a good idea since a

Re: Max size of a process in FreeBSD.

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Adam Nealis wrote: I can't find the answer to this in a handbook search - I can never get the right terms together 8(. It's not in the handbook. [ ... ] But I read this on google: [ ... ] In the second part of the thread it references a thread discussed in December that discusses it.

Re: ThinkPad X22 PC-Card slot problem

2002-02-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : From: Takanori Watanabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 23:16:21 +0900 : I recently installed -current to ThinkPad X22. Though it seems that : X22's PC-Card slots work fine with -stable, in -current when probing :

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: how about a port that uses the installed sources together with some uploaded parts to 'reconstitute' gcj as if it had been compiled wit the rest of the system. FreeBSD does a fairly evil thing: it takes the compiler source code post-config instead of pre-config. It's

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Joe Kelsey wrote: David O'Brien writes: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:23:32PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: It is plain that many people will want to be able to install a version of gcc that is officially supported and that also includes *all* of the standard platforms that come as part

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:47:07PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: So what? When I install gcc on a non-native platform (such as HP-UX or Solaris), Again, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM you are trying to solve? Just laziness of not being willing to type ``pkg_add -r gcc30'' or ``pkg_add -r gcc31''?

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:47:07PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: What is so hard about allowing someone to specify the list of frontends to provide at system build time? I thought that gcc was supposed to be a modular compiler system, You thought wrong. 8-). and that

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Peter Wemm
Joe Kelsey wrote: David O'Brien writes: 3. Are you going to maintain them? If we did do this work and allowed people to optinally install gjc and Ada, I bet only 5% would do so (other than the initial turning it on just to see what the compilers looked like). What

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:38:02PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: On 6 Feb, David O'Brien wrote: Yes it comes as part of binutils. Ok. No we should not go down this path. You've already been told that there is no official libiberty or bfd release. Well, the following URL

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:54:22PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: how about a port that uses the installed sources together with some uploaded parts to 'reconstitute' gcj as if it had been compiled wit the rest of the system. FreeBSD does a fairly evil thing: it

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Peter Wemm
Terry Lambert wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: how about a port that uses the installed sources together with some uploaded parts to 'reconstitute' gcj as if it had been compiled wit the rest of the system. FreeBSD does a fairly evil thing: it takes the compiler source code post-config

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread Peter Wemm
Julian Elischer wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Jake Burkholder writes: What's the right way to do this? I think you want lda, its used to load an address constant in support.s: lda t0, fusufault /* trap faults */

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : How many MB does your flash card where you're installing : FreeBSD have on it? I've installed a subsetted FreeBSD onto a 8MB CF card. For normal FreeBSD (as oppsoed to pico), the smallest amount of space you

RE: Making bootable recovery CD using cdboot/loader fails

2002-02-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Feb-02 Michael Reifenberger wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, John Baldwin wrote: ... Its the loader after showing: ... loader Revision... (root@nihil, ...) ... And then a few rotating -\|/ (serching or loading loader.conf, kernel, ?) Then silence. Hmm. Is your loader

Re: Performance of -current vs -stable

2002-02-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Feb-02 David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:02:34AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: WITNESS can really hurt. Quite possibly I should turn it off in GENERIC now (I wouldn't mind if someone else did that.) I think it should stay. Especially as we are not getting much usage in

Re: Non 386 testers REALLY NEEDED

2002-02-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Feb-02 Andrew Gallatin wrote: Andrew Gallatin writes: Since thread0 is no longer a pointer, this looks suspicious in locore.s: /* * Switch to proc0's PCB. */ ldq t0,thread0 /* get phys addr of pcb */

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Barcroft
Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2: We need to get a *basic* compiler up and running first. Give David a break, ok? There are far bigger problems to deal with first before futzing around on obscure languages that we have no critical need for in the base system. We

Re: How about gcj? (Re: Not committing WARNS settings...)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 6 Feb, David O'Brien wrote: http://www.gnu.org/manual/bfd-2.9.1/ for example, seems to imply, that there was, in fact, at some point a release 2.9.1 of bfd... It does not quite match the bfd, No, that document describes the BFD that was included with Binutils 2.9.1. If you

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 5:23 PM -0800 2/6/02, Joe Kelsey wrote: It is plain that many people will want to be able to install a version of gcc that is officially supported and that also includes *all* of the standard platforms that come as part of the gcc release. This line of reasoning does not scale up well. It is

libmilter (asking for more trouble :)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
FreeBSD comes with sendmail, and milter is an increasingly popular part of sendmail -- used by the authors of different spam and virii filtering software. Shouldn't FreeBSD build and install libmilter and the relevant headers, too? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libmilter (asking for more trouble :)

2002-02-06 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
mi FreeBSD comes with sendmail, and milter is an increasingly popular part mi of sendmail -- used by the authors of different spam and virii filtering mi software. mi Shouldn't FreeBSD build and install libmilter and the relevant headers, mi too? It will do so when 8.12 is imported. See:

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Nate Williams
: How many MB does your flash card where you're installing : FreeBSD have on it? I've installed a subsetted FreeBSD onto a 8MB CF card. For normal FreeBSD (as oppsoed to pico), the smallest amount of space you need is about 6.9M, and that can be stripped down to about 5M with compression

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Nat Lanza
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 23:46, Mike Barcroft wrote: Yes, absolutely. Every minute David spends replying to these idiotic suggestions wastes valuable project time. How many FreeBSD users need to compile Java to machine code? 2, 3, 4 people? How hard is it to use `pkg_add -r' and rearrange

Re: libmilter (asking for more trouble :)

2002-02-06 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On 6 Feb, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: mi FreeBSD comes with sendmail, and milter is an increasingly popular part mi of sendmail -- used by the authors of different spam and virii filtering mi software. mi Shouldn't FreeBSD build and install libmilter and the relevant headers, mi too?

Re: libmilter (asking for more trouble :)

2002-02-06 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
mi Great! The TLS support will be there too, right? Thanks! Yes (as it already is in FreeBSD). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:47:07PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: So what? Just because it wasn't part of 4.2 BSD, does that mean that we should never support it? 2. What is so hard with installing the port. No one has answered *THAT* question yet. Ports are installed

Re: gcc3.x issues

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Barcroft
Nat Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, people might be less persistent about these idiotic suggestions if they got treated with some civility and respect. From what I read, the participants in this thread were very civil and respectful. I don't think the original poster had given his

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