Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 23.12.11 03:17, O. Hartmann wrote: Or even look at the thread regarding to SCHED_ULE. Why has a user, experiencing really worse performance with SCHED_ULE, in a nearly scientific manner some engineer the fault? I'd expect the developer or care-taking engineer taking care in a more user

Re: r228700 can't dhclient em0

2011-12-23 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 23. Dec 2011, at 01:40 , Doug Barton wrote: On 12/21/2011 23:20, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:35:23PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: D So does that mean that if I upgrade to the latest HEAD from a system D built before the ifconfig changes that when I reboot my network

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 23.12.11 08:47, Martin Sugioarto wrote: A further thing is that I cannot understand the people here sometimes. I would like that the -RELEASE versions of FreeBSD perform well without any further optimizations. The -RELEASE things is just a freeze (or, let's say tested freeze) of the

Re: r228700 can't dhclient em0

2011-12-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/23/2011 01:14, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On 23. Dec 2011, at 01:40 , Doug Barton wrote: On 12/21/2011 23:20, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:35:23PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: D So does that mean that if I upgrade to the latest HEAD from a system D built before the

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, while the discussion continued here, some work started at

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 23.12.11 12:48, O. Hartmann wrote: Look at Steve Kargls problem. He investigated a SCHED_ULE problem in a way that is far beyond enough! He gave tests, insights of his setup, bad performance compared to SCHED_4BSD and what happend? We are still stuck with this problem and more and more

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Dec 23 11, Daniel Kalchev wrote: On 23.12.11 08:47, Martin Sugioarto wrote: A further thing is that I cannot understand the people here sometimes. I would like that the -RELEASE versions of FreeBSD perform well without any further optimizations. The -RELEASE things is just a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/23/11 07:47, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:17:00 +0100 schrieb O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Benchmarks also could lead developers to look into more details of the weak points of their OS, if they're open for that. Therefore, benchmarks are very useful. But

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/23/11 10:07, Daniel Kalchev wrote: On 23.12.11 03:17, O. Hartmann wrote: Or even look at the thread regarding to SCHED_ULE. Why has a user, experiencing really worse performance with SCHED_ULE, in a nearly scientific manner some engineer the fault? I'd expect the developer or

scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Rosenman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been getting these in a VirtualBox VM. I'm not sure what to do. I CAN give VNC access to this VM in this state. panic: sched_priority: invalid priority 331: nice 0, ticks 56612596 ftick 1213618 itick 1214628 tick pri 159 cpuid = 0 KDB: enter:

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:21:41 -0600 Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org пишет: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been getting these in a VirtualBox VM. I'm not sure what to do. I CAN give VNC access to this VM in this state. panic: sched_priority: invalid priority 331: nice

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Rosenman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/23/2011 7:31 AM, Ivan Klymenko wrote: В Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:21:41 -0600 Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org пишет: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been getting these in a VirtualBox VM. I'm not sure what to do. I CAN

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:38:21 -0600 Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org пишет: BORG-DTRACE Show, please, the kernel config BORG-DTRACE ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Ivan Klymenko wrote: ? Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:38:21 -0600 Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org ?: BORG-DTRACE Show, please, the kernel config BORG-DTRACE include GENERIC ident BORG-DTRACE options KDTRACE_HOOKS# all architectures - enable general DTrace hooks

scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Rosenman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been getting these in a VirtualBox VM. I'm not sure what to do. I CAN give VNC access to this VM in this state. panic: sched_priority: invalid priority 331: nice 0, ticks 56612596 ftick 1213618 itick 1214628 tick pri 159 cpuid = 0 KDB: enter:

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Martin Sugioarto
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:18:03 +0200 schrieb Daniel Kalchev dan...@digsys.bg: The -RELEASE things is just a freeze (or, let's say tested freeze) of the corresponding branch at some time. It is the code available and tested at that time. Hi Daniel, obviously performance is not a quality

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:51:47 pm Garrett Cooper wrote: On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu Dec 22 11, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Alexander Best wrote: On Thu Dec 22 11, Dimitry Andric wrote: Hi, I would like to

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, December 23, 2011 8:21:41 am Larry Rosenman wrote: I've been getting these in a VirtualBox VM. I'm not sure what to do. I CAN give VNC access to this VM in this state. panic: sched_priority: invalid priority 331: nice 0, ticks 56612596 ftick 1213618 itick 1214628 tick pri 159

FreeBSD funding [was: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1] Server

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Linimon
I have slightly reordered your email in my reply, in order to put the most important item last. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:01:33PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm still with the system, although I desperately need scientific grade compilers or GPGPU support. Your use-case, while valid, is

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. Now... in case someone here is

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 23.12.11 16:47, Martin Sugioarto wrote: I thought that the D in FreeBSD stands for distribution. Yes, it's ok that it compiles with LLVM. Does it also run faster in benchmarks? It does. From a language perspective. It is a distribution, because at the times BSD was developed, it was not

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00:05AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, while the discussion continued here, some

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/23/11 15:47, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:18:03 +0200 schrieb Daniel Kalchev dan...@digsys.bg: The -RELEASE things is just a freeze (or, let's say tested freeze) of the corresponding branch at some time. It is the code available and tested at that time. Hi

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Dec 23 11, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:51:47 pm Garrett Cooper wrote: On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu Dec 22 11, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Alexander Best wrote: On Thu Dec 22 11,

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Rosenman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/23/2011 8:54 AM, John Baldwin wrote: The sloppiest fix might be to do this: Index: sched_ule.c === - --- sched_ule.c (revision 228777) +++ sched_ule.c (working

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2011-12-23 17:00, Alexander Best wrote: ... Back in the 7.x days, I ran into some code that wasn't easily to debug because the compiler optimized things out with -O2 by inlining and otherwise shifting around code, so setting breakpoints in gdb became difficult. So from that point on I've

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/23/11 16:24, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00:05AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, while the

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-12-23 17:00, Alexander Best wrote: ... Back in the 7.x days, I ran into some code that wasn't easily to debug because the compiler optimized things out with -O2 by inlining and otherwise shifting around code, so setting

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, I think this thread has gone far, far off the rails. If you're able to provide some solid debugging or willing to put in the effort to provide said solid debugging, then great. The easier you can make it for someone to fix for you (whether they're a FreeBSD committer or otherwise) the more

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, I think this thread has gone far, far off the rails. If you're able to provide some solid debugging or willing to put in the effort to provide said solid debugging, then great. The easier you can make it for someone to fix for you (whether they're a FreeBSD committer or otherwise) the more

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2011-12-23 18:55, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... The only thing my patch makes sure of, is that amd64 does the same thing as all other arches, e.g.: compile with a low optimization settings for debug (-O, which is equivalent to

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Dec 23 11, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-12-23 18:55, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... The only thing my patch makes sure of, is that amd64 does the same thing as all other arches, e.g.: compile with a low optimization settings

Re: [patch] Cleaning up amd64 kernel optimization options

2011-12-23 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 08:04:32PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-12-23 18:55, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... The only thing my patch makes sure of, is that amd64 does the same thing as all other arches, e.g.: compile with a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Vincent Hoffman vi...@unsane.co.uk wrote: On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander

Re: GCC debug flags cleanup

2011-12-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Erik Cederstrand e...@cederstrand.dk wrote: Hi, I've created a patch that cleans up FreeBSD Makefiles that unconditionally set the -g flag for GCC. The motivation for this is that it should be possible to add or remove this flag globally via e.g. CFLAGS

[patch] allow local-tools to include local directories

2011-12-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, This patch allows for user-defined extra local tools directories, a la what LOCAL_DIRS does for adding local build directories to the source. This is needed for cross-compiling as some local tools may need to be first built. I've used this successfully to cross-compile my busybox stuff.

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2011-12-23 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:50 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:50 -

[head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2011-12-23 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:50 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:50 -

[rfc] removing -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 flag for i386?

2011-12-23 Thread Alexander Best
hi there, is -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 really necessary for i386 builds any longer? i built GENERIC (including modules) with and without that flag. the results are: 1654496 bytes with the flag set vs. 1654952 bytes with the flag unset the gcc(1) man page states the following: This extra

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2011-12-23 Thread Sergey Kandaurov
On 24 December 2011 03:39, FreeBSD Tinderbox tinder...@freebsd.org wrote: TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - cleaning the object tree TB ---

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2011-12-23 Thread Sergey Kandaurov
On 24 December 2011 04:02, Sergey Kandaurov pluk...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 December 2011 03:39, FreeBSD Tinderbox tinder...@freebsd.org wrote: TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-23 19:00:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for

[patch] bsdbox changes for base system: add LOCAL_

2011-12-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, Here are two patches which implement some useful features for crunch building: * Add LOCAL_TOOLS_DIR in src/Makefile.inc1, which adds entries to the 'build-tools' target. This is needed for cross-building bsdbox (and any external directory added by LOCAL_DIRS) * If CRUNCH_SUPPRESS_ALL_LINKS

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 23/12/2011 20:23, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Vincent Hoffman vi...@unsane.co.uk wrote: On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: snip There is a wiki page http://wiki.freebsd.org/SystemTuning which is currently more or less tuning(7) with some annotations, the

Re: GCC debug flags cleanup

2011-12-23 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:52:45 +0100 Erik Cederstrand e...@cederstrand.dk wrote: Hi, I've created a patch that cleans up FreeBSD Makefiles that unconditionally set the -g flag for GCC. The motivation for this is that it should be possible to add or remove this flag globally via e.g. CFLAGS

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2011-12-23 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:52 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:52 -

Re: [rfc] removing -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 flag for i386?

2011-12-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Well, the whole kernel is bloated at the moment, sorry. I've been trying to build the _bare minimum_ required to bootstrap -HEAD on these embedded boards and I can't get the kernel down below 5 megabytes - ie, one with FFS (with options disabled), MIPS, INET (no INET6), net80211, ath (which

[head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2011-12-23 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - tinderbox 2.8 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:00 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:54 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2011-12-24 02:20:54 -