Re: minor heads up - /etc/make.conf{,.local} being moved

1999-11-02 Thread Doug Barton
Matthew Dillon wrote: (Approved by jkh) /etc/make.conf.local will become /etc/make.conf and /etc/make.conf will become /etc/defaults/make.conf. This change is long overdue. The sys.mk adjustment has already been committed. An email has been sent to the CVS

Re: minor heads up - /etc/make.conf{,.local} being moved

1999-11-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Jason C. Wells wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Doug Barton wrote: I think it is necessary to make it exit for now, because what we are really doing is a net-0 gain in files... turning what used to be functionality in /etc/make.conf.local into /etc/make.conf

makewhatis[.local] issues

2002-10-27 Thread Doug Barton
Howdy, Two things related to the new makewhatis. First, shouldn't it be in /usr/sbin? It's not really a command we'd expect users to run. Second, /etc/periodic/weekly/320.whatis still refers to /usr/libexec/makewhatis.local, which of course no longer exists. I'm not sure what the fix is to

Re: Kernel breakage?

2002-10-27 Thread Doug Barton
Josef Karthauser wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 05:18:37PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: I think UPDATING hasn't been updated on this, but there was a change in the format printing for printf that conflicts with the ddb format printing. You need to rebuild your gcc. Thanks. I'll do

Re: HEADS UP: you need to install a new kernel before an installworld.

2002-10-28 Thread Doug Barton
IMO it's more a matter of POLA for those upgrading to -current for the first time. For those that don't realize exactly how different 5.x is, spelling out the steps of installing device.hints, installing the new loader, etc. makes their life easier. This should go on the Comprehensive guide to

Re: make(1) broken!

2002-10-29 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't think we need to go overboard, but we are in the run{up,down} to a release now, so some extra testing would be nice. I think this point may not have gotten the attention it deserves. Being so close to a major release, why are we changing

Re: ... could sleep with pcm0 locked from ...

2002-11-02 Thread Doug Barton
Our pcm maintainer is aware of this problem, and is working on the solution. It's expected before 5.0-Release. HTH, Doug -- We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory. - George W. Bush, President

Can't resolve hosts via dns on the command line with latest -current

2002-11-03 Thread Doug Barton
Howdy, With -current built from sources updated at around 8pm PST, I can't resolve hosts on the command line if /etc/resolv.conf points to a name server running on the local host. The local name server itself is working fine, and I can reach any host in /etc/hosts as well. ktrace /sbin/ping

Re: Can't resolve hosts via dns on the command line with latest-current

2002-11-03 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: I have the same problem and reverting rev. 1.134 of /sys/kern/uipc_socket.c fixes the problem. Confirmed here too, thanks for the tip. I had looked over the recent commits to /etc/lib/*, but none of them looked guilty. Doug To Unsubscribe: send

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/fs/specfs spec_vnops.c

2002-11-03 Thread Doug Barton
Kirk, I'm adding a bunch of people to the list who were involved in a thread on -current on this topic. I also tried this change and noticed that things did seem a tiny bit snappier (although my system is slow enough that it could have just been my imagination). Thanks, Doug Kirk McKusick

Re: Can't resolve hosts via dns on the command line with latest-current

2002-11-04 Thread Doug Barton
Kelly Yancey wrote: Thanks for the great trace and your patience. I believe I found the root of the problem. Could you please try the attached patch? Works for me, thanks. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc.subr

2002-11-08 Thread Doug Barton
Gordon Tetlow wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:06:15AM -0800, Gordon Tetlow wrote: gordon 2002/11/08 09:06:15 PST Modified files: etc rc.subr Log: Diff reduction to NetBSD: Fix a minor grammer nit. Get rid of _echo that uses logger and just

Re: What's up with www.freebsd.org?

2002-11-10 Thread Doug Barton
Alex Zepeda wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html returns a 403. Oops. It's been temporarily disabled. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Doug Barton
David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote: IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the perl port's use.port symlink-creating feature should be used instead. Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't working out

Re: Mergemaster Bug (Though not a serious one)

2002-11-12 Thread Doug Barton
Galen Sampson wrote: One thing that I found interesting during mergemaster was the grouping of changes. For instance mergemaster determined that my /etc/group file was lacking some groups. The 4 groups that needed changing were on adjacent lines. Mergemaster gave me the option of merging

mdconfig /tmp problem

2002-11-14 Thread Doug Barton
Folks, I have been using an mdconfig /tmp for quite a while. Today, running -current from 11/14 I got the following errors while doing an installworld after testing my bind 8.3.3-patched import stuff: kernel: swap_pager_strategy: bp 0xc2f34480 blk 0 size 0, not page bounded (plus lots more)

Re: Run two copies of named from rc.conf?

2002-11-17 Thread Doug Barton
John De Boskey wrote: It would be nice if rc.conf could start a 2nd copy of named (split dns). IMO, running two named's on the same box is an edge case, and not likely to be attractive to the majority of our userbase. I think you might be better off with something in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: IIRC, we never supported upgrade to 4.0 or 4.1 from anybut but the *latest* version in the 3.x series. I sure hope we adopt the same policy here. While I can't put a lot of time into supporting ru's efforts, and I agree that the policy should be

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [ current@ Cc:'ed because it'll be useful to a number of upgraders. dougb@ Cc:'ed to be aware of possible mergemaster(8) problems. Thanks. 1. smmsp user was missing from /etc/passwd and /etc/group 2. installed 4.0 kernel did not have the

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: I've attempted to overcome 1) as suggested by UPDATING, by running the ``mergemaster -p'' (from src/usr.sbin/mergemaster/). This did not work well because mergemaster(8) attempted

nvidia drivers hate me

2002-12-06 Thread Doug Barton
The native nvidia drivers work great in RELENG_4 with my geforce 4 mmx, but in -current they hate me. I just upgraded to the latest -current and I'm using XFree compiled on -current, no joy. It's always the same error: panic: bremfree: bp 0xc7751bb8 not locked I've tried both with and without

Re: nvidia drivers hate me

2002-12-06 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Doug Barton wrote: The native nvidia drivers work great in RELENG_4 with my geforce 4 mmx, but in -current they hate me. I just upgraded to the latest -current and I'm using XFree compiled on -current, no joy. It's always the same error: panic: bremfree: bp 0xc7751bb8

Re: nvidia drivers hate me

2002-12-06 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: Doug Barton wrote: The native nvidia drivers work great in RELENG_4 with my geforce 4 mmx, but in -current they hate me. I just upgraded to the latest -current and I'm using XFree compiled on -current, no joy. It's always the same error: panic

Re: RC NG, ntp and routed

2002-12-10 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I'd like to think about really sitting down and overhauling the rc.d system after 5.0 is branched. I think that it's reasonable to say we should not try to be compatible with NetBSD except for keeping a common rc.subr and major initialization

Re: RC NG, ntp and routed

2002-12-11 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Mike Makonnen wrote: I don't understand what you are saying. Why would we have routing run after local filesystems are mounted but before the network is up? What if /usr/local is an nfs-mounted partition (like it is on my systems, both at home and work)? btw, someone

Re: 5.0-RC1: suspend trouble

2002-12-15 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: The main reason I decided to try 5.0-RC1 on my brand new Dell Inspiron 4150 is a minor problem with suspending the machine under 4.7: After wakeup, the fan runs full speed and will not settle until I reboot. However, with 5.0-RC1 the machine

Re: 5.0-RC1: suspend trouble

2002-12-17 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Christian Brueffer wrote: Suspend works ok on my Thinkpad R32. Which version do you have? A21e To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: NVIDIA driver compilation failed

2003-01-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Scott Long wrote: It looks like sys/filedesc.h needs to be included in nv-freebsd.h This got me up and running again on -current compiled 12/31. Thanks Scott! Now that I'm used to the better performance of the nvidia drivers, it's really noticable when it's not there. Doug

Re: 5.0 without swap

2003-01-11 Thread Doug Barton
This is good stuff Geoffrey we may just borrow it. :) I know you'ved saved me some work personally, as playing with gdbe is high on my list of things to do. Doug On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: For encrypting swap, try this: --- etc/rc.d/Makefile 22 Dec 2002 22:25:53

Re: ssh strangeness in -current...

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: I've been building and rebuilding in an attempt to make sure that its not some stupidity on my part. Be assured that when I'm positive I've got a reproducable error that I'll let everyone in on the details. If you give us an idea where

Re: FINAL: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, John Daniels wrote: Oops: That's kudos for John *Baldwin,* NOT "Barton." A thousand pardons... Hey... calling him Barton is a _compliment_! :) Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe:

Re: ssh strangeness in -current...

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: If you give us an idea where your breakage is, we can tell you if it's a known problem. E.g., there is a known problem with PPP(D) and NO_OPENSSL that Kris and I have already worked out a fix for. Yep

Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton
Matt Heckaman wrote: Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the back for that program. Well, kind

Re: no openssh after build

2000-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:38:44 PST, R Joseph Wright wrote: I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be installed. I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are empty. There is no /usr/bin/ssh. Last night's ``make world'' scored

Re: Make world error.....

2000-03-03 Thread Doug Barton
William Woods wrote: Running 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #10: Wed Mar 1 10:25:09 PST 2000 on a IBM thinkpad 600E, 128 megs. while doing a make world of todays CVSUP I get this: What command line did you use? This looks to me like 'make -jN' breakage. I would try the following:

Re: ssh strangeness in -current...

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with breakage. I can't fix this if you don't tell me what it is! What? Nobody else is test

Re: NODESCRYPTLINKS=true doesn't work

2000-03-12 Thread Doug Barton
Oliver Fromme wrote: Maybe I'm just too dumb... It's my understanding that the purpose of the ``NODESCRYPTLINKS'' option in make.conf is to prevent overwriting the libcrypt symlinks in /usr/lib. Well, it doesn't work. I cvsupped today in the morning (~ 9:00 UTC on Sunday), added

Re: 3.4 vs. 4.0 NFS Code performance

2000-03-12 Thread Doug Barton
Jérome OUFELLA wrote: Hi, I need to use a quite big NFS server, serving ~120GB for ~200 clients, all OS's mixed (*BSD, Linux, HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, Xterminals). Is it worth it to use the -current branch (-release on next monday perhaps?) for this important server, or should I

Re: XFree86-4 can't start

2000-03-12 Thread Doug Barton
"Michael L. Imamura" wrote: I haven't tried xfce, but I had some problems running Enlightenment 16.3, all related to shared memory. I disabled shared pixmaps in my Imlib configuration and that got rid of the random crashing, but is again not a very optimal solution :) I'm guessing it's a

Re: 4.0-20000307-CURRENT kern.flp keyboard probe questions

2000-03-11 Thread Doug Barton
"Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote: You could say I reserve the right shoot myself in foot by swapping keyboards. I think you've made it really clear with all of your many posts that you want this option. On the other hand, some of us think it's worthwhile to warn people that swapping

Re: XFree86-4 can't start

2000-03-11 Thread Doug Barton
"Michael L. Imamura" wrote: I was able to get it working through a small patch to the scripts/configure file. Probably not the most optimal solution, but it works until the port is updated: --- configure Fri Mar 10 19:20:34 2000 +++ configure.2 Sat Mar 11 18:19:55 2000 @@ -197,7

Re: 5.0-current breaks building jpeg shared library

2000-03-15 Thread Doug Barton
Vallo Kallaste wrote: Strange, I always thought the -current list is for general issues related to -current branch and for true kernel hackers exist -hackers. Ok, now you know differently. No problem. :) -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as

Re: current.freebsd.org snapshots and broken X11

2000-03-14 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think I'm just going to go to the 3.4 bits; I don't have a definitive XFree86 distribution for 4.0 and I don't think I'm going to get one in time to make a difference. Not to mention that 4.0 has "issues" with some

Re: possible simple install-info fix

2000-03-15 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: Hi, I was looking into fixing the install-info problem, and wondered if the solution is really as easy as it seems: Hmmm I had been thinking all along that the problem with install-info was that the system couldn't use the new

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Alas, that is just not true for many of us who are in bandwidth-poor countries. Over here, it can take 3 to BIGNUM hours to download an ISO image (there aren't any up-to-date local mirrors), depending on time of day and the phase of the moon. I

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-15 Thread Doug Barton
Christian Weisgerber wrote: Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. Which

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-16 Thread Doug Barton
Donn Miller wrote: Anyone get this beast to work on -current? The audio works, but the video doesn't work at all. I have COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel, and RealPlayer 5.0 works pretty well. I got disgusted with RP 5 because all of my favorite programs updated to G2 format, so I nuked

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-16 Thread Doug Barton
Donn Miller wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Hmm... If I have a PII (Actually celeron 300A) or a PIII, which is better, 'pentium' or 'pentiumpro'? I would think the latter, but I've learned not to assume where gcc is concerned. I think that 'pentium' would result in code that isn't

Re: possible simple install-info fix

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:08:55PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: Hi, I was looking into fixing the install-info problem, and wondered if the solution is really as easy as it seems: Hmmm I had been

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
Donn Miller wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: You can't use a foreign plugin with a native freebsd netscape..unfortunately there aren't many plugins available in native format - this is a good reason to use the linux version. I've noticed that the Linux version

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-16 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: Wondering why one would use -mcpu and not -march. If the code runs only on Celerons, PII's, and PIII's why would one *not* use -march. I'm curious about (possible) breakages with -mcpu or -march compared to -Ox settings which seem to break

makeinfo for gdb.info is broken

2000-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
My latest world breakage involves makeinfo on gdb.info. I tried to dig through the makefile maze to try and get just that bit not to build and I can't sort it out. Error message below. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier

Re: Another current crash (cvs-cur.6183

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: But it might actually make a lot of sense to make INVARIANTS the default this early in the -CURRENT cycle, protests ? What kind of overhead does it add? The warning messages in LINT look rather dire to me, but I'm interested in knowing the

Can't build sysinstall

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Barton
I have a prehistoric version of sysinstall on my otherwise up to date 5.0-Current, and when I used it my system rebooted, so I thought I'd recompile. Unfortunately 'cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall ; make clean ; make all' bombed out in kget. More details available on request, but I thought

Re: NOUUCP knob and /etc/uucp

2000-03-24 Thread Doug Barton
Ray Kohler wrote: I was just noticing that the files in /etc/uucp are installed anyway if you set NOUUCP, whereas those in /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl are affected by their respective knobs. Could /etc/uucp be wrapped around the NOUUCP knob? I replied to Dan Moschuk's commit message for

Re: NOUUCP knob and /etc/uucp

2000-03-24 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Dan Moschuk wrote: Oops! I've just committed the fix. No sweat! We're all busy. I'm just glad to see it done. It's something I've wanted for a long time. It probably should be NO_UUCP, but no one seems to want to make a final decision on the NOFOO vs. NO_FOO

Re: sysinstall broken :(

2000-03-24 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, John Baldwin wrote: On 24-Mar-00 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Hmph, it seems sysinstall (and thus make release) is broken in -current: I don't know what version of sysinstall you're using, but it builds just fine for me under -current. I saw some other kvetching

Re: Accessing FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE filesystems from 4.0-STABLE...

2000-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven writes: : Block/character device collapsing breaking you up now? : : /dev/ Should only be character devices now. I was surprised how many block devices were in my /dev when I did a ls -l /dev | grep ^b.

Re: Accessing FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE filesystems from4.0-STABLE...

2000-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
Brad Knowles wrote: When I try to mount my 3.4-STABLE root filesystem on /old, here's what I get: $ mount /old mount: /dev/da0s1a on /old: incorrect super block 'fsck -y /dev/da0s1a' -- "So, the cows were part of a dream that dreamed

Re: SPWD.DB

2000-03-26 Thread Doug Barton
"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: I accidently deleted my spwd.db on 4.0-stable, how do I recreate it, any hints would be appreciated. Assuming that your master.passwd is up to date, the easiest way is to do, 'pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd'. That will synch everything up for you. The

Re: conf/17595: Preventing cp /etc/defaults/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf from looping

2000-03-27 Thread Doug Barton
I took another look at this problem, and before I go forward with more testing I wanted to solicit some comments. The problem is that users who don't read blindly copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf into /etc. Because of the recursive call at the end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf when you copy the file

cvs repository nits and gnats

2000-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
Greetings, I'm working on a new project and had the need for a clean set of sources on a new machine. In the course of setting it all up I neglected to copy over my .cvsrc file which has (amongst other things) 'co -P'. In checking out the sources for RELENG_4 I ended up with a large

Re: cvs repository nits and gnats

2000-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
Thanks for the response... On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: src/TODO-2.1, src/usr.sbin/xntpd, etc. There were a large number in contrib, probably detritus from imports, etc. I'm not sure if this is significant, it obviously

Re: cvs repository nits and gnats

2000-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
John Polstra wrote: [My silly speculation about cvs lockfiles and cvsup deleted] I think you may be misinterpreting the symptoms, That's entirely possible. because I don't know of any way for lock files to propagate off of freefall with CVSup. All lock files are specifically

Re: Perl 5.6.0?

2000-04-06 Thread Doug Barton
Christopher Masto wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 10:52:13AM +0100, Nick Hibma wrote: Are there actually any good reasons why we _should_ upgrade in the first place? Of course. We now have an obsolete version of Perl. That should be reason enough to upgrade. You haven't given

SBlive driver

2000-04-09 Thread Doug Barton
Cameron Grant wrote: cg 2000/04/01 23:41:21 PST Added files: sys/dev/sound/pciemu10k1.c emu10k1.h Log: unfinished sblive driver, playback/mixer only for now - not enabled in conf/files i don't seem to be clearing the cache right resulting in a short initial

Re: SBlive driver

2000-04-10 Thread Doug Barton
Otter wrote: Maybe you should try another audio app. I plan to do that when I have time to handle a system that might reboot spontaneously. However I figured Cameron (et al) would want to know about the rebooting problem with esound (at least for me). Doug -- Excess on occasion is

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/sound/pci emu10k1.c

2000-04-19 Thread Doug Barton
Cameron Grant wrote: cg 2000/04/18 12:11:39 PDT Modified files: sys/dev/sound/pciemu10k1.c Log: try the fix from creative bugzilla for nmi problem Obtained from:creative labs bugzilla This is definitely an improvement, it doesn't spontaneously

Re: Anyone have OpenSSH + X11-fwd working?

2000-04-21 Thread Doug Barton
Peter Wemm wrote: I hope we haven't changed the server default to stop forwarding.. the security risk is to the client, not the remote sshd server, therefore it is the client that should decide on whether to forward or not. I seem to recall the server default being changed, then

Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility

2000-04-24 Thread Doug Barton
Matthew Dillon wrote: So you guys (core) choose -- do you want 4.x to reap the benefits of further SMP development or not? If you choose no, beware that without this base cleanup there is *NO* chance whatsoever of any further SMP work being MFC'd to 4.x. None. Zilch. It

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-25 Thread Doug Barton
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, you wrote: I'd like to add that it can be particularly important when legal questions arise. You confuse the argument for SOME complete repositories with the necessity that ALL (or at each most) repositories be so extensive.

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-25 Thread Doug Barton
Jon Hamilton wrote: I've been following this thread at some distance for a while, and I don't understand your definition of ``everyone''. Aside from developers, who do you feel is a good candidate to track the entire CVS repository, rather than using CVSUP or some other method to get only

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-26 Thread Doug Barton
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: Actually, I didn't start this. Someone else brought up the idea. ...and quickly decided it was not worthwhile. Yes, the developers do a good job of repressing

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-26 Thread Doug Barton
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, you wrote: Any further discussion from you on this point that doesn't include code is totally and completely without value. You are correct that I "haven't proven" yet. . . . I'll sit back and wait... To Unsubscribe: send

Re: RSA decrypt problems

2000-05-07 Thread Doug Barton
Steve Price wrote: On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # I'm suspecting it might be something missing in the ASN.1 encoding of the # certificate, which netscape requires but IE permits. This would be # consistent with a missing openssl.cnf file at the time of certificate #

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-07 Thread Doug Barton
Will Andrews wrote: Hello, I've noticed an inconsistency among our ports. It seems that not every port that installs rc.d startup scripts includes methods to not only startup, but also shutdown and/or restart, where appropriate. (Sent to -ports for ports hackers' opinions.) Dave

Re: RSA decrypt problems

2000-05-07 Thread Doug Barton
Steve Price wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: # Ok, here are some silly questions. Did you create a private key for # this server, did you encrypt your cert with it, and is that .key file # pointed to in your httpd.conf config file? SSLCertificateKeyFile is what

world breakage in usr.bin/kdump

2000-05-08 Thread Doug Barton
Got the following with up to the minute sources: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/usr.bin/kdump/../.. -c /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c sh

Re: world breakage in usr.bin/kdump

2000-05-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 8 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote: On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 11:36:45PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: /usr/include/sys/wormio.h:102: warning: `CDRIOCBLANK' redefined /usr/include/sys/cdrio.h:59: warning: this is the location of the In the old days cd /usr/src ; make -DCLOBBER

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: I'm going to reply to the system part of this too, replies to this thread should split off to -current. I have a design in mind for a new rc system that uses scripts with "start, stop, status" operators to both

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Just curious, but wouldn't this be FreeSVR4??? :-) I'm going to assume that the smiley means you're joking, but I hope that we can stick to discussing this plan on its merits, rather than rejecting it out of hand because it's like something that someone

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Will Andrews wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:53:16PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Point well taken. If anyone has references to this work, or an easy introduction to netbsd's version I'd love to look at them. I've been hoping to carve out some time to work on this, but every time I

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc scripts that we have now. Imagine the confusion of the people that have ONLY used FreeBSD when they go in and see

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Narvi wrote: Errrmmm Really, did you check the archives for the issue? There used to be a real long thread on why/why not sysV style init scripts. It produced not one but several flamewars iirc 8-) In short - if we change from the present scheme, we want something better than just

Re: Can we please have a current that compiles?

2000-05-13 Thread Doug Barton
Mike Nowlin wrote: I'd just seen a series of bad commits whose corrections weren't caught by the frequency of my cvs updates I guees. Vinum is compiling now, and kernels with IPSEC and INETV6 now link, it's just that last night's problems with more got me a little ticked off. cc:

Re: Anyone else seeing jumpy mice?

2000-05-22 Thread Doug Barton
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: No, I don't mean rodents who've nibbled on chocolate-covered expresso beans, I mean PS/2 mice which fall victim to this new problem: May 19 00:50:45 zippy /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (00c0 != ). I've seen it for the last few weeks and can only think that

Re: Yet another breakage this week ...

2000-05-25 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: Dear FreeBSD'ers, yet another item of bad news during this long endless week *sigh* I succesfully built and installed the world -- sources as of 24 May at (about) 21 GMT. However, I couldn't compile a kernel. It broke at the ipfilter module

Re: Scheduler changes?

2000-05-27 Thread Doug Barton
"Jacob A. Hart" wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 04:01:05PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2000 13:19:49 +1000, "Jacob A. Hart" wrote: For the past couple of weeks I've noticed rc5des isn't playing friendly with the other processes on my system. When running a CPU

Re: Problems with source_rc_confs

2000-06-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: I know, but I had to modify them to get it running. If that's true, you already had some sort of custom modifications which interfered with the way the system is supposed to work. That's not "bad," it just makes debugging more complicated.

Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6

2000-06-25 Thread Doug Barton
"Dampure, Pierre Y." wrote: Apologies if this has already been reported, but `make world` is currently failing when trying to generate Config.pm for the newly imported Perl 5.6 (failure at line 20 of configpm) Second that. Clean /usr/obj, make cleandir in /usr/src, problem still

Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6

2000-06-26 Thread Doug Barton
Mark Murray wrote: This indicates to me that configpm is not reading Config.pm from the obj directory, which does contain the correct value that configpm is looking for at line 433. I'm not sure what the fix is, but hopefully this'll help mark down the road. Thanks! You're

Re: perl5 ports and perl5.006

2000-06-28 Thread Doug Barton
Ade Lovett wrote: Got a couple of issues with perl5.006 that just went into -current in terms of perl5 ports. The first one is relatively straightforward, being a simple versioning problem. Following patch fixes that (OSVERSION may be slightly wrong, but it corresponds to what I have

Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please

2000-06-29 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, gnu not unix wrote: Hi. My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. This will never happen. This position was made clear in th erecent tcsh debate. -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New

Re: bug: device ether no longer optional

2000-06-29 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:57:59AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: Andrey A. Chernov writes: Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() Please fix.

Re: Boot hang (was Re: bug: device ether no longer optional)

2000-06-30 Thread Doug Barton
"Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Are you using any optimizations other than "-O -pipe"? There's a problem since Peter's recent changes that cause it to bomb out with anything more exotic. Yes, this was a

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-02 Thread Doug Barton
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: On Sunday, July 02, 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Actually the whole src/sys/compile thing should go away, it is one of the last things that has to be dealt with for a totally read-only mounted /usr/src. IMHO it should be moved to /usr/obj, and /usr/obj

Re: make buildworld failed...

2000-07-02 Thread Doug Barton
Sergey Osokin wrote: Hello! After CVSuped my sources i try make buildworld it failed: As you've already noticed, you will get better responses in general to help requests if you change your CFLAGS options in /etc/make.conf to "-O -pipe" (or just comment out CFLAGS, which has the

Small breakage in -Current, libc man page strunvisx.3.gz

2000-07-02 Thread Doug Barton
I updated my sources this morning, and buildworld succeeded but installworld bombed out here while handling libc's man pages: /usr/share/man/man3/vis.3.gz - /usr/share/man/man3/strunvisx.3.gz ln: /usr/share/man/man3/strunvisx.3.gz: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in

Re: DHCP does not honor default router?

2000-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
Greg Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 4 July 2000 at 15:42:10 +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: My laptop gets a fixed IP address (137.194.161.7) using DHCP (so that I do not have to set up multiple configurations depending on the network). However, even when it receives router information, it

Re: DHCP does not honor default router?

2000-07-05 Thread Doug Barton
Brian Dean wrote: On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Doug Barton wrote: I updated my dhclient script to handle this case, since it happens on the roadrunner network as well. I can send you the patch if you want, but I have a lot of other hacks in my script so it might be confusing. Starting

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