Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-16 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:25:24AM -0800, K. Macy wrote:
> On Monday, November 14, 2016, Lars Engels  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 01:56:45PM -0800, K. Macy wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 12, 2016, Mark Heily  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Kevin Oberman  > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > vaapi appears to be preinstalled, however when I run "vainfo" it is
> > unable
> > > > to find a driver.
> > > >
> > > > The underlying problem is that Intel Skylake graphics are not fully
> > > > supported under FreeBSD yet; see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually don't.
> > >
> > > Refer to the -X11 and -current archives. I've already discussed this
> > > multiple times. UXA and full offload work fine. The problem is trueos is
> > > using the modesetting driver and Glamor acceleration doesn't fully work
> > yet
> > > without artifacts. This is more an issue of ease of development for the
> > > configuration tool on trueos than fundamental limitation.
> > >
> > > The code currently in tree doesn't support anything newer than Haswell.
> > > Support for Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake is out of tree. However,
> > that
> > > is what trueos is using.
> >
> > When can we expect your graphics work in HEAD? :)
> >
> 
> The core kernel changes will probably happen by the end of the year now
> that a number of committers have Skylake and Kaby Lake laptops. Once those
> are done the drivers themselves can be made in to ports. Adrian, Alexander
> Motin, and Conrad have all expressed an interest in moving this along.
> 

Sounds very good, thank you!


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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-14 Thread K. Macy
On Monday, November 14, 2016, Lars Engels  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 01:56:45PM -0800, K. Macy wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2016, Mark Heily  > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Kevin Oberman  
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi?
> > > >
> > >
> > > vaapi appears to be preinstalled, however when I run "vainfo" it is
> unable
> > > to find a driver.
> > >
> > > The underlying problem is that Intel Skylake graphics are not fully
> > > supported under FreeBSD yet; see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
> >
> >
> > Actually don't.
> >
> > Refer to the -X11 and -current archives. I've already discussed this
> > multiple times. UXA and full offload work fine. The problem is trueos is
> > using the modesetting driver and Glamor acceleration doesn't fully work
> yet
> > without artifacts. This is more an issue of ease of development for the
> > configuration tool on trueos than fundamental limitation.
> >
> > The code currently in tree doesn't support anything newer than Haswell.
> > Support for Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake is out of tree. However,
> that
> > is what trueos is using.
>
> When can we expect your graphics work in HEAD? :)
>

The core kernel changes will probably happen by the end of the year now
that a number of committers have Skylake and Kaby Lake laptops. Once those
are done the drivers themselves can be made in to ports. Adrian, Alexander
Motin, and Conrad have all expressed an interest in moving this along.

-M
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-14 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 01:56:45PM -0800, K. Macy wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2016, Mark Heily  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Kevin Oberman  > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi?
> > >
> >
> > vaapi appears to be preinstalled, however when I run "vainfo" it is unable
> > to find a driver.
> >
> > The underlying problem is that Intel Skylake graphics are not fully
> > supported under FreeBSD yet; see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
> 
> 
> Actually don't.
> 
> Refer to the -X11 and -current archives. I've already discussed this
> multiple times. UXA and full offload work fine. The problem is trueos is
> using the modesetting driver and Glamor acceleration doesn't fully work yet
> without artifacts. This is more an issue of ease of development for the
> configuration tool on trueos than fundamental limitation.
> 
> The code currently in tree doesn't support anything newer than Haswell.
> Support for Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake is out of tree. However, that
> is what trueos is using.

When can we expect your graphics work in HEAD? :)


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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
I have a Lenovo X1 yoga, which should be pretty similar to 4th gen X1
Carbon.

I'm running 12-CURRENT with with drm-next-47 bits and corresponding
xorg-next.

I have graphics running fine good enough. There are some yet to be resolved
crashes of gtk-apps, and libreoffice makes X segfault.

Both wired and wireless is working fine. I have not yet made the 4g modem
work.

Best regards
Andreas

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Stefan Hagen 
wrote:

> * Stefan Hagen wrote:
> > * Suspend does now work
> Typo: Suspend does NOT work!
>
> Bye,
> Stefan
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-13 Thread K. Macy
On Saturday, November 12, 2016, Mark Heily  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Kevin Oberman  > wrote:
>
> >
> > In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi?
> >
>
> vaapi appears to be preinstalled, however when I run "vainfo" it is unable
> to find a driver.
>
> The underlying problem is that Intel Skylake graphics are not fully
> supported under FreeBSD yet; see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics


Actually don't.

Refer to the -X11 and -current archives. I've already discussed this
multiple times. UXA and full offload work fine. The problem is trueos is
using the modesetting driver and Glamor acceleration doesn't fully work yet
without artifacts. This is more an issue of ease of development for the
configuration tool on trueos than fundamental limitation.

The code currently in tree doesn't support anything newer than Haswell.
Support for Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake is out of tree. However, that
is what trueos is using.

-M


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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-13 Thread Stefan Hagen
* Stefan Hagen wrote:
> * Suspend does now work
Typo: Suspend does NOT work!

Bye,
Stefan
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-13 Thread Stefan Hagen
* Jeremie Le Hen wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback on the X1 Carbon. Does anyone have experience with
> the T460s?

I own an x260 on 11.0-RELEASE at the moment, which is pretty much the
same hardware.

* WIFI works pretty well with the iwm driver.
* GPU works in a very basic and unaccelerated way with the intel driver.
  I'm also not able to control the backlight (but I didn't try hard)
  So you may want to follow the "Skylake/HD graphics support" mail thread.
* Audio works
* NVME SSD works
* Suspend does now work

I had the T430 before, which is working very great with FreeBSD. If you
need everything to be supported, go for a bit older version.

pciconf:
hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x19048086 rev=0x08 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers'
--
vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x19168086 rev=0x07 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'HD Graphics 520'
--
xhci0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0330 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d2f8086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller'
--
none0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x118000 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d318086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem'
--
none1@pci0:0:22:0:  class=0x078000 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d3a8086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI'
--
pcib1@pci0:0:28:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d108086 rev=0xf1 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
class  = bridge
--
pcib2@pci0:0:28:2:  class=0x060400 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d128086 rev=0xf1 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
class  = bridge
--
pcib3@pci0:0:28:4:  class=0x060400 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d148086 rev=0xf1 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port'
--
isab0@pci0:0:31:0:  class=0x060100 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d488086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller'
--
none2@pci0:0:31:2:  class=0x058000 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d218086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP PMC'
--
hdac0@pci0:0:31:3:  class=0x040300 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d708086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio'
--
none3@pci0:0:31:4:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x504a17aa chip=0x9d238086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Sunrise Point-LP SMBus'
--
em0@pci0:0:31:6:class=0x02 card=0x223317aa chip=0x15708086 rev=0x21 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Ethernet Connection I219-V'
--
none4@pci0:2:0:0:   class=0xff card=0x504a17aa chip=0x522a10ec rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.'
device = 'RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader'
--
iwm0@pci0:4:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x01308086 chip=0x24f38086 rev=0x3a 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Wireless 8260'
--
nvme0@pci0:5:0:0:   class=0x010802 card=0x00011179 chip=0x010f1179 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Toshiba America Info Systems'
class  = mass storage

Bye,
Stefan
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-13 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Thanks for the feedback on the X1 Carbon. Does anyone have experience with
the T460s?

On Nov 11, 2016 12:25, "Jeremie Le Hen"  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the
> subject.
>
> I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under
> FreeBSD. What are the goods and bads?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Jeremie
>
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-12 Thread Mark Heily
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Kevin Oberman  wrote:

>
> In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi?
>

vaapi appears to be preinstalled, however when I run "vainfo" it is unable
to find a driver.

The underlying problem is that Intel Skylake graphics are not fully
supported under FreeBSD yet; see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-11 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Mark Heily  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Jeremie Le Hen  wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the
> > subject.
> >
> > I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under
> FreeBSD.
> > What are the goods and bads?
> >
> >
> I just purchased a brand new Gen 4 X1 Carbon last week and tried a recent
> TrueOS build on it.  I'm triple booting it with Windows and Linux for
> comparison purposes. Here's what I have seen so far regarding FreeBSD:
>
> - Wifi and the touchpad work fine.
>
> - The latest gen HiDPI screens (aka Retina display) have extremely high
> resolution relative to the size of the screen, which makes the console
> fonts extremely tiny. Even the TrueOS graphical installer was barely usable
> due to small fonts.  If you want a graphical desktop environment, you'll
> have to figure out how to scale applications to look right under HiDPI.
> Lumina and the TrueOS display manager did a decent job of it, but didn't
> give me enough control over the scaling factor. With the latest Gnome on
> Linux, it gives you a lot of control over how applications are scaled. I've
> heard KDE5 also has support for HiDPI.
>
> - Skylake integrated video isn't accelerated. and feels a little slow.
> Video playback is choppy and disappointing.
>
> - Suspend/resume is reported not to work (I have not confirmed this)
>
> At this point, FreeBSD is still unusable due to display issues (IMHO) and I
> spend most of my time booting into Linux :(
>
> The hardware itself is great, other than the black finish seems to attract
> smudges and fingerprints. It's super lightweight, quiet, fast, and the
> keyboard and trackpad feel very comfortable


In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi? It provides
Intel GPU video acceleration sand, on my old Sandy Bridge it made a huge
difference in video, at least with software that supports it.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-11 Thread Mark Heily
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Jeremie Le Hen  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the
> subject.
>
> I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under FreeBSD.
> What are the goods and bads?
>
>
I just purchased a brand new Gen 4 X1 Carbon last week and tried a recent
TrueOS build on it.  I'm triple booting it with Windows and Linux for
comparison purposes. Here's what I have seen so far regarding FreeBSD:

- Wifi and the touchpad work fine.

- The latest gen HiDPI screens (aka Retina display) have extremely high
resolution relative to the size of the screen, which makes the console
fonts extremely tiny. Even the TrueOS graphical installer was barely usable
due to small fonts.  If you want a graphical desktop environment, you'll
have to figure out how to scale applications to look right under HiDPI.
Lumina and the TrueOS display manager did a decent job of it, but didn't
give me enough control over the scaling factor. With the latest Gnome on
Linux, it gives you a lot of control over how applications are scaled. I've
heard KDE5 also has support for HiDPI.

- Skylake integrated video isn't accelerated. and feels a little slow.
Video playback is choppy and disappointing.

- Suspend/resume is reported not to work (I have not confirmed this)

At this point, FreeBSD is still unusable due to display issues (IMHO) and I
spend most of my time booting into Linux :(

The hardware itself is great, other than the black finish seems to attract
smudges and fingerprints. It's super lightweight, quiet, fast, and the
keyboard and trackpad feel very comfortable.
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Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-11 Thread Ccs189
Hi,
Prob this may help?
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops

Anywhz I own a a X1 Carbon gen1 type43xx model.

Running FreeBSD 11 without any isssue. 
I recompile the kernel without vesa driver so that it can put in sleep mode, It 
may not need to do it now, but I follow  11 version since the current branch. 
As long as it work, I don bother to change my kernel config.

Just small issue, after the laptop wake up from the sleep, mmc card not working 
properly. 

USB disk plug in previously before sleep mode not work after the laptop Wake 
up. U have to remount the disk.

Hope that helps.

Best regards,
Chan


> On 11 Nov 2016, at 7:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the subject.
> 
> I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under FreeBSD.
> What are the goods and bads?
> 
> Thanks!
> -- Jeremie
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Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s

2016-11-11 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi guys,

I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the subject.

I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under FreeBSD.
What are the goods and bads?

Thanks!
-- Jeremie
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