Re: Apples linking

2003-11-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 03:46:42AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: >FWIW: If FreeBSD wanted to use this approach, the safest way to do >it would b to split the user and kernel address space mappings; in >general, this will only mean modifying uiomove/copy{in|out}[str], >and dealing with the address map

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Terry Lambert
Robert Watson wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: > > what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything > > dynamically linked in darwin ? Has anyone done timed runs lately on > > dynamically vers. static linking on darwin ? Or did they find just > > cleaning up the dlop

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Terry Lambert
David Rhodus wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > >FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking > >everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this > >same pattern. First, a disclaimer: this is me speaking for me; I do not speak for Apple. > Terry, what are some of the chang

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 07:59, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > [Darwin pre-binding] > >presumably applies to other processor architectures. The one thing that > >turns me off to this scheme is that I'd like it if we could find a way to > >repres

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: [Darwin pre-binding] >presumably applies to other processor architectures. The one thing that >turns me off to this scheme is that I'd like it if we could find a way to >represent this using solely existing BSD/UNIX kernel primitives (

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread E.B. Dreger
RW> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:24:23 -0500 (EST) RW> From: Robert Watson [ CC list trimmed ] RW> The one thing that turns me off to this scheme is that I'd RW> like it if we could find a way to represent this using solely RW> existing BSD/UNIX kernel primitives (mmap, et al) and RW> userspace, ra

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: > >FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking > >everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this > >same pattern. > > Terry, what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything > dynamically linked in darwin ? Has an