Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]

2014-02-22 Thread Julian Elischer

On 2/22/14, 2:54 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:

On 21 February 2014 20:59, Allan Jude free...@allanjude.com wrote:


I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for
'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc.

How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off
the USB, so you could access the web server?

what apple does.


I redeemed an itunes card to day.. and all I had to do was hold it
up to the camera and it read the numbers off the card..
nice..



-a
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Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]

2014-02-21 Thread Julian Elischer

On 2/18/14, 3:28 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek wrote:

(cross-posted message: eventual discussion let's keep on hackers@)

Hello,

After being disappointed with the list of submitted FreeBSD ideas, I created
my own Machiavellist vision of XXI-century FreeBSD. I paste it below. If you
want to add something, it's here:

https://wiki.freebsd.org/BSD_XXI_Manifesto

GSOC students could use this as an inspiration for their projects. The idea
is to invite non-C, non-OS, non-kernel developers to help out with FreeBSD
stuff.



BSDXXI manifesto

[nice stuff] removed for brevity

I like all this..  I thought you meant XXI to mean the FreeBSD's 21st 
year

but there is more than one year's worth of stuff there.

I really suggest people seriously look at the list.. lots of really 
neat ideas.
peole who are not necessarily C coders could do lots of this if we had 
a project to gather people under to do it.

PCBSD people would be a core of interested people..


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Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]

2014-02-21 Thread Allan Jude
On 2014-02-21 21:21, Julian Elischer wrote:
 On 2/18/14, 3:28 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek wrote:
 (cross-posted message: eventual discussion let's keep on hackers@)

 Hello,

 After being disappointed with the list of submitted FreeBSD ideas, I
 created
 my own Machiavellist vision of XXI-century FreeBSD. I paste it below.
 If you
 want to add something, it's here:

 https://wiki.freebsd.org/BSD_XXI_Manifesto

 GSOC students could use this as an inspiration for their projects. The
 idea
 is to invite non-C, non-OS, non-kernel developers to help out with
 FreeBSD
 stuff.

 

 BSDXXI manifesto
 [nice stuff] removed for brevity
 
 I like all this..  I thought you meant XXI to mean the FreeBSD's 21st
 year
 but there is more than one year's worth of stuff there.
 
 I really suggest people seriously look at the list.. lots of really neat
 ideas.
 peole who are not necessarily C coders could do lots of this if we had a
 project to gather people under to do it.
 PCBSD people would be a core of interested people..
 
 
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I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for
'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc.

How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off
the USB, so you could access the web server?

-- 
Allan Jude



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Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]

2014-02-21 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Allan Jude free...@allanjude.com wrote:

 On 2014-02-21 21:21, Julian Elischer wrote:
  On 2/18/14, 3:28 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek wrote:
  (cross-posted message: eventual discussion let's keep on hackers@)
 
  Hello,
 
  After being disappointed with the list of submitted FreeBSD ideas, I
  created
  my own Machiavellist vision of XXI-century FreeBSD. I paste it below.
  If you
  want to add something, it's here:
 
  https://wiki.freebsd.org/BSD_XXI_Manifesto
 
  GSOC students could use this as an inspiration for their projects. The
  idea
  is to invite non-C, non-OS, non-kernel developers to help out with
  FreeBSD
  stuff.
 
  
 
  BSDXXI manifesto
  [nice stuff] removed for brevity
 
  I like all this..  I thought you meant XXI to mean the FreeBSD's 21st
  year
  but there is more than one year's worth of stuff there.
 
  I really suggest people seriously look at the list.. lots of really neat
  ideas.
  peole who are not necessarily C coders could do lots of this if we had a
  project to gather people under to do it.
  PCBSD people would be a core of interested people..
 
 
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 I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for
 'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc.


yes i agree the approach is nice.
what is unfortunate is that sometimes these appliances
are in environments where there is no [open]
wireless access so one might consider bringing
two usb sticks -- the disk image and a wifi.



 How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off
 the USB, so you could access the web server?


I presume UPNP can come to help here.
Otherwise the appliance can try and encode the information with
one of the following methods (with a matching app on the phone):
- with a QR code on the screen, if it has one;
- playing tones on the speakers, if it has one;
- flashing leds (e.g. some USB keys have 'activity' leds)

cheers
luigi
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Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]

2014-02-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 21 February 2014 20:59, Allan Jude free...@allanjude.com wrote:

 I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for
 'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc.

 How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off
 the USB, so you could access the web server?

what apple does.



-a
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