Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-16 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:18:43 -0700 Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Otherwise circular dependencies. > > > > That's what rcorder(8) is there for. > > It's not that simple. > > The most obvious example is the need to use DNS in order to look > up syslog hosts, and whether you s

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Doug Barton
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Are you talking with lukem about this? It would be nice to stay as > compatible as possible. Greg, This, and many other questions of the same nature are answered in the extensive discussion on this topic in -arch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 11:30:08 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > >> Mike Makonnen wrote: >>> Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** >>

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Mike Makonnen wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 > Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > > > > describes hard dependency or

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > > > describes hard dependency ordering? > > > > Why the need to

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > > describes hard dependency ordering? > > Why the need to distingish? Otherwise circular dependencies. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [E

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > describes hard dependency ordering? Why the need to distingish? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the messa

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Mike Makonnen wrote: > > Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > in amd, > > > # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient > > > ** > > > since i don't use yp, how can i override this? > > > > > > or i

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Hmm, appears to be Luke Mewburn's NetBSD stuff, which I know. > Shouldn't there be an "Obtained From: NetBSD" in the commit messages? Heh, sorry about that. I thought taking if off the NETBSD vendor branch was enough of a hint. It appears that I

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Danny Braniss wrote: > in amd, > # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient > ** > since i don't use yp, how can i override this? > > or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? This isn't a hard requirement for startin

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Doug Barton
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Hmm, appears to be Luke Mewburn's NetBSD stuff, which I know. > Shouldn't there be an "Obtained From: NetBSD" in the commit messages? > > Are you (or is anybody) doing something about keeping as close as > possible to being in sync with NetBSD? This project has been

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:53:03 +0930 "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 0:34:36 -0700, Mike Makonnen wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 > > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700,

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 0:34:36 -0700, Mike Makonnen wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: >>> I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. >> >

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. > > Can you summarize what the differences are? o Instead of a few monolit

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:30:19 -0700 > Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ick. > > > > What should be used instead of REQUIRE to mean that it will be > > started? > > > > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > > describes hard dependency ordering? > > Cor

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:30:19 -0700 Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ick. > > What should be used instead of REQUIRE to mean that it will be > started? > > I.e. if "REQUIRE" describes soft dependency ordering, what > describes hard dependency ordering? Correct, the REQUIRE line onl

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Can you summarize what the differences are? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubs

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Mike Makonnen wrote: > Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in amd, > > # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient > > ** > > since i don't use yp, how can i override this? > > > > or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? > > The RE

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:55:40 +0300 Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in amd, > # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient > ** > since i don't use yp, how can i override this? > > or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? The REQ

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:38:15 +0200 Dennis Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sendmail_enable="NONE" did'nt help either. This can be fixed with below > patch. > It still complains with > /etc/rc: WARNING: $sendmail_enable is not set properly. > but sendmail is no longer started. [patch

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
Dennis Kristensen wrote: > Gordon Tetlow wrote: > >> ... >> Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng="YES" into your >> rc.conf and post any problems you might have. >> >> > I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. > > 2: > Setting mta_start_script to

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
> > >> Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng="YES" into your >> rc.conf and post any problems you might have. >> >> > I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. > > 1: > When bringing up fxp0 with IP from DHCP i get: > Doing initial network setup: host

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Danny Braniss
in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" i

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
zhuravlev alexander wrote: >On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:28:40PM +0200, Dennis Kristensen wrote: > > >>Gordon Tetlow wrote: >> >> >> >>>... >>>Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng="YES" into your rc.conf >>>and post any problems you might have. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I have gi

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread zhuravlev alexander
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:28:40PM +0200, Dennis Kristensen wrote: > Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > >... > >Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng="YES" into your rc.conf > >and post any problems you might have. > > > > > I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is att

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
Gordon Tetlow wrote: >... >Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng="YES" into your rc.conf >and post any problems you might have. > > I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. 1: When bringing up fxp0 with IP from DHCP i get: Doing initial network set

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Gordon Tetlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Please > note that it should be fully functional but there are some parts that need > some looking at: > > atm > ipfilter > > > Hopefully Mike

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-13 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Please > note that it should be fully functional but there are some parts that need > some looking at: I'd also like to add a word of encouragement to test this early and often. We plan t