Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-18 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

Jacques Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have one (colorado thing).  I _will not_ adopt it :-) but I'd
 happily send it to a committer that wanted to support it.  I haven't
 used it in years, but AFAIK it still works.

I have an old Conner drive and three 40MB tapes which I will happily
donate to any poor S.O.B. who hates life enough to take it upon
himself to maintain the ft0 driver.

DES
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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-16 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai

On [19991016 04:00], jack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Today Julian Elischer wrote:

 hey If someone did adopt it then it wouldn't be a problem..
 if no-on edoes then it can remain 'unsupported'

unsupported != tucked away in the attic, out of reach of
many/most users.

Current != platform for users.

Anyone tracking CURRENT should know how to use Attic.

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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-16 Thread jack

Today Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

 On [19991016 04:00], jack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Today Julian Elischer wrote:
 
  hey If someone did adopt it then it wouldn't be a problem..
  if no-on edoes then it can remain 'unsupported'
 
 unsupported != tucked away in the attic, out of reach of
 many/most users.
 
 Current != platform for users.
 
 Anyone tracking CURRENT should know how to use Attic.

Agreed, but my original statement was:

It might help if HARDWARE.TXT (both -current and -stable) didn't
list floppy tapes.  It refers to the driver as "stale" rather
than gone.

The driver has been listed that way through all of the 3.x
releases, which is the platform for users, and will probably
still be listed the same way when 4.0 is released.  

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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-15 Thread Mike Smith

 
 Sorry if I ask a FAQ,

Don't be sorry, don't do it.  Search the mailing list archives.

 But where is ft0 support gone?

Into the bitbucket.

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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-15 Thread jack

Today Mike Smith wrote:

  
  Sorry if I ask a FAQ,
 
 Don't be sorry, don't do it.  Search the mailing list archives.

It might help if HARDWARE.TXT (both -current and -stable) didn't
list floppy tapes.  It refers to the driver as "stale" rather
than gone.

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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-15 Thread Julian Elischer

the driver could come back if someone who HAD such a device were to adopt
it..


On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, jack wrote:

 Today Mike Smith wrote:
 
   
   Sorry if I ask a FAQ,
  
  Don't be sorry, don't do it.  Search the mailing list archives.
 
 It might help if HARDWARE.TXT (both -current and -stable) didn't
 list floppy tapes.  It refers to the driver as "stale" rather
 than gone.
 
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Re: QIC ft0 driver support in 4.0-CURRENT gone?

1999-10-15 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:20:54 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 the driver could come back if someone who HAD such a device were to adopt
 it..

Probably not.  The hardware is just so transcendently evil that it's
unlikely it could be made to work reliably for more than one or two
people at a time.

At some point we need to stop supporting antique hardware since it
places a significant burden on the advancement of the rest of the
system.

-GAWollman



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