Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-15 Thread Tim Gustafson
The SAS 2008 chip (SAS 6G) is the one that the FreeBSD mps driver has problems with when used with port expanders. It's the older SAS 3G chip that works OK with FreeBSD I think. I had crossed some wires earlier on in our discussion. We do have a SAS 2008 chip in the system already, but it's

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-15 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 15, 2011 11:36 PM, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: The SAS 2008 chip (SAS 6G) is the one that the FreeBSD mps driver has problems with when used with port expanders. It's the older SAS 3G chip that works OK with FreeBSD I think. I had crossed some wires earlier on in our

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-15 Thread Tim Gustafson
Can you connect an enclosure to the SAS 2008 chip card you have now and test? I thought I had read about problems like yours with that chip on FreeBSD when using such enclosures. The SAS 2008 chip we have is built in to the motherboard; it does not have any external connectors.

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-14 Thread Tim Gustafson
I don't know what's out there having chosen only one such card for home use. So you'll need to do your own research. Start with looking at any card with the right chip and then look for evidence that people have used said card with FreeBSD. LSI has the SAS 9200-8e, which is based on the SAS

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-14 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 15, 2011 12:42 AM, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: I don't know what's out there having chosen only one such card for home use. So you'll need to do your own research. Start with looking at any card with the right chip and then look for evidence that people have used said

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-10 Thread Tim Gustafson
I'm not sure what cards you can get now with the LSI 1068E chip. As LSI branded cards cost more, I went for for the LSI SAS2008 based Supermicro AOC-USAS2-L8i as I new I wasn't going to use port expanders. It could be hard to get cards with the older chip now (you might have to get something

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-10 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 11, 2011 6:07 AM, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: I'm not sure what cards you can get now with the LSI 1068E chip. As LSI branded cards cost more, I went for for the LSI SAS2008 based Supermicro AOC-USAS2-L8i as I knew I wasn't going to use port expanders. It could be hard

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-09 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 8, 2011 12:33 AM, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: Advice is: Use -STABLE and not -RELEASE Upgrade firmware Avoid port multipliers As I'm using cheap 4K green drives I had to use wdidle3.exe to fix the 8 second head parking and I also had to use gnop to force my ZFS

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 9 September 2011 18:32, Matt Thyer matt.th...@gmail.com wrote: Harder solutions are: A) Fix the driver .. which is the only way FreeBSD improves, so. You choose. :) Also: A1) Post lots of debugging info to the list, be very friendly and helpful, see if any developers are willing to help

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-09 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 9, 2011 8:38 PM, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 9 September 2011 18:32, Matt Thyer matt.th...@gmail.com wrote: Harder solutions are: A) Fix the driver .. which is the only way FreeBSD improves, so. You choose. :) Also: A1) Post lots of debugging info to the list,

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-09 Thread Tim Gustafson
If not, look at paying a small (say $1k) bounty to get it fixed. :) Unfortunately, our budget situation would not allow this sort of thing right now. :\ Buying hardware is a lot easier than paying for something like this. Helping to fix the driver is a thing that Tim is in the unusual

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-09 Thread Matt Thyer
On 10 September 2011 01:19, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: I can most likely switch to a different card. Just to make sure I get the right one, do you have a part number of the card that you are recommending? As I mentioned earlier, I was looking around on the LSI site and they have

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-07 Thread Matt Thyer
On 7 September 2011 13:54, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: What are the drives exactly? You may have issues like TLER or frequent head parking. Are these SATA, SCSI or SAS and are port multipliers in use? root@bsd-03: dmesg | grep da6 da6 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 da6:

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-07 Thread Matt Thyer
On 7 September 2011 19:07, Matt Thyer matt.th...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 September 2011 13:54, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: What are the drives exactly? You may have issues like TLER or frequent head parking. Are these SATA, SCSI or SAS and are port multipliers in use?

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-07 Thread Tim Gustafson
Advice is: Use -STABLE and not -RELEASE Upgrade firmware Avoid port multipliers As I'm using cheap 4K green drives I had to use wdidle3.exe to fix the 8 second head parking and I also had to use gnop to force my ZFS pool to use 4K transfers. We're already using -STABLE; we update

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-06 Thread Matthew Jacob
On 9/6/2011 4:04 PM, Tim Gustafson wrote: Hi all, I'm running RELENG_8: -- ... So, is this an OS/driver issue? Is it a bad controller? Bad cables? Bad disks? As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Likely some problem in the external box. Note that you get a

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-06 Thread Matt Thyer
On Sep 7, 2011 8:53 AM, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: Hi all, I'm running RELENG_8: -- root@bsd-03: uname -a FreeBSD bsd-03 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 22 14:58:58 PDT 2011 root@bsd-03:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 -- We've got an MPT

Re: RELENG_8 / mpt / zpool Errors

2011-09-06 Thread Tim Gustafson
What are the drives exactly? You may have issues like TLER or frequent head parking. Are these SATA, SCSI or SAS and are port multipliers in use? root@bsd-03: dmesg | grep da6 da6 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 da6: ATA WDC WD2003FYYS-0 1D01 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da6: