Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Leif Neland
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Donn Miller
Leif Neland wrote: make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at boot when loading a stale linux.ko. If making world _and_ kernel doesn't build modules, what _then_? Making world builds kernel

attachable driver modules (Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning))

2000-04-23 Thread attila!
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Donn Miller wrote: I'd like to discuss further the possibility of creating some sort of mechanism where the modules can be built with the kernel. Also, we can have some sort of option in LINT or GENERIC where a keyword, such as module, can be put somewhere in the

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Leif Neland wrote: make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at boot when loading a stale linux.ko. If making world _and_ kernel doesn't build modules, what _then_?

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Donn Miller wrote: Which mailing list would be appropriate for discussing kernel modules, etc.? freebsd-arch. Kris In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Zepeda writes: : Perhaps it's time to implement some sort of versioning in the modules to : prevent them from being loaded into the incorrect kernel. In theory that sounds nice, but in -current the kernel ABI changes too quickly for that to be effecitve. The

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. make world doesn't build a

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Zepeda writes: : Perhaps it's time to implement some sort of versioning in the modules to : prevent them from being loaded into the incorrect kernel. In theory that sounds nice, but in -current the kernel ABI changes too quickly for

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Will Andrews
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:56:08AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: that rapid developer folks can disable it. ITYM "rabid". And I kinda resent that.. ;-) -- Will Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCS/E/S @d- s+:++:- a---+++ C++ UB P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t++ 5 X++

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Will Andrews wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:56:08AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: that rapid developer folks can disable it. ITYM "rabid". And I kinda resent that.. ;-) I really did mean rapid, as in those that are installing kernels every 10 mins to test changes. Though, these days

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Donn Miller
Stijn Hoop wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at boot when loading a stale linux.ko. \begin{newbie question} So

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Donn Miller wrote: Stijn Hoop wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at boot when loading a stale linux.ko.

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:24:49AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: \begin{newbie question} So why aren't the modules built with the kernel instead of with the world? \end{newbie question} I bitched about this on committers the other day and marcel told me it was being worked on. -- Bill Fumerola

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Then, we could add an option "make modules" and "make install_modules" so that they could be built/installed with the kernel. After all, modules ARE a part of the kernel... Looks like *really* nice idea. This would allow to solve "stale

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:58:49 +0300, Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Looks like *really* nice idea. This would allow to solve "stale modules" problem at minimal cost. Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away... (well, OK, seven years ago, in FreeBSD 1.0) I was working on developing a