Re: Testers please!

1999-09-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Bryant writes: >since there is only a single master clock oscillator, there really >should be no frequency difference between CPUs. As long it runs constantly: yes. As soon as you have clock-stop events you will have different resync times for the on-chip PLL

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
... > > One question comes to mind: is there a way that the TSCs could become > > desynchronized somehow? Even though all CPUs run at the same frequency, > > isn't there a strong possibility for slight frequency deviation since > > we use crystal oscillation instead of a more accurate atomic brea

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-22 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > > This reminds me about the usage of TSC counter on SMP. First even though > > we don't use TSC for time keeping on SMP, the TSC frequency from calibration > > is still valid (at least for BSP), and we can show it in the cpu identification >

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luoqi Chen writes: >> people have found sufficiently many cases where the counters are >> not in sync after the BIOS is done. >> >I would really like to know how they managed to read the TSCs simultaneously, >or they resorted to some kind of statistical means (whi

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-22 Thread Luoqi Chen
> >TSC is initialized to 0 at hardware reset, which should happen to all CPUs > >at the same time (invalid assumption?), in another words, all TSCs should be > >automatically synchronized. > > They are not. The PLL is local to each cpu and every single > clock-stop/start event has then inching a

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luoqi Chen writes: >Second, the listed reason for not using TSC on SMP is the inability >to synchronize TSCs on all cpus. My question is, is it really necessary? Strictly speaking no, it isn't necessary, but unless they are in sync the timekeeping code gets very c

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-21 Thread Mike Smith
> One question comes to mind: is there a way that the TSCs could become > desynchronized somehow? Even though all CPUs run at the same frequency, > isn't there a strong possibility for slight frequency deviation since > we use crystal oscillation instead of a more accurate atomic breakdown > for

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-21 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: > This reminds me about the usage of TSC counter on SMP. First even though > we don't use TSC for time keeping on SMP, the TSC frequency from calibration > is still valid (at least for BSP), and we can show it in the cpu identification > message. Second, the

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-21 Thread Luoqi Chen
> If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you > please try out this patch: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/piix/ > > I'm very interested in hearing if there are any measurable difference > apart from clock granularity being 3 times better. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-20 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you > please try out this patch: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/piix/ > > I'm very interested in hearing if there are any measurable difference > apart from clock granularity being 3 times better. just cvsupped, added your

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Wemm writes : >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> Ok, noted. I changed to to fail the probe but still use the hardware. > >If intpm is probed first (the smbus driver), your probe won't even get >called. I think we need an early quirks or hooks handler in the pci

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-20 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Ok, noted. I changed to to fail the probe but still use the hardware. If intpm is probed first (the smbus driver), your probe won't even get called. I think we need an early quirks or hooks handler in the pci probes to handle stuff like this. For example, we have h

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Ok, noted. I changed to to fail the probe but still use the hardware. Poul-Henning In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Wemm writes : >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you >> please try out this patch: >> >> http://phk.freebsd.d

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you > please try out this patch: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/piix/ > > I'm very interested in hearing if there are any measurable difference > apart from clock granularity being 3 times better. There i

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dav id Scheidt writes: >On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> >> If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you >> please try out this patch: >> >> http://phk.freebsd.dk/piix/ >> >> I'm very interested in hearing if there are an

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-19 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > If you have a PIIX4 based SMP system and run current, could you > please try out this patch: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/piix/ > > I'm very interested in hearing if there are any measurable difference > apart from clock granularity being 3