Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-06 Thread Mark Martinec
On 2016-08-06 21:08, Julian Elischer wrote: On 6/08/2016 11:09 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 02:15:36PM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On 05.08.2016

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-06 Thread Julian Elischer
On 6/08/2016 11:09 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 02:15:36PM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: On 2016-08-05

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 02:15:36PM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: > > >> On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: > > >> >

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-06 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 02:15:36PM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: > >> On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >>> On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: > [Bug

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: >> On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>> On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: [Bug 211598] date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-05 Thread Andrey Chernov
On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: > On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: >>> [Bug 211598] >>> date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3 >>> and violates POSIX >>> >>>

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Martinec
On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: [Bug 211598] date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3 and violates POSIX https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598 It breaks compatibility but not violates

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-05 Thread Andrey Chernov
On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: > [Bug 211598] > date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3 > and violates POSIX > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598 It breaks compatibility but not violates POSIX. POSIX care of only its own POSIX

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Martinec
On 2016-08-05 07:00, Julian Elischer wrote: On 5/08/2016 5:44 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted? it's not clear without reading the standard whether the bug is in the old or new version. have you tried other systems? In particular I'd check OSX

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/08/2016 5:44 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted? it's not clear without reading the standard whether the bug is in the old or new version. have you tried other systems? In particular I'd check OSX sh-3.2$ export LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-04 Thread Mark Martinec
Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted? Mark On 2016-08-04 04:32, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/08/2016 7:24 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Is it normal/expected/documented that the date(1) command in 11.0 now produces a timestamp in substantially different format in an

Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

2016-08-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/08/2016 7:24 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Is it normal/expected/documented that the date(1) command in 11.0 now produces a timestamp in substantially different format in an "en_US.UTF-8" locale (long names, commas, 12 vs. 24h hour time): Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST vs: