Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
M. Warner Losh wrote: : - Please consider restoring rdist to FreeBSD. Thanks. And the number of security problems with rdist are legion. A large component of the decision to remove it from the base was the high incidence of security problems with the original code. That, coupled with the rdist6 incompatibility and the better alternatives, lead us to remove it from the tree rather than update the code. Thanks Warner, OK security problems ... legion ... fair enough ! Next thing you'll be wanting perl back in the base system :-) Chuckle, not me :-) I didn't want to consume list time on a discussion if rdist had been previously debated lost, but I had no idea current had debated it. rdist might have been one of those commits that just slip through without much review sometimes. I haven't been tracking current for a long time prior to call for DP2 tester, (so perhaps I'm a good tester, 'cos I'll trip fall on what you long term current folk know to step over/round, not trip on), but I Did first first ask: Has this been well debated already ? or should I file a Send-PR ? until my last post, I saw no indication of previous debate. Only then did I get: Mark M's Debate over. Kris's: [...Other stale arguments deleted...] (which probably crossed with mail batch reading timezones, with mine). Julian Stacey jhs @ berklix.com Computer Systems Engineer, Unix Net Consultant, Munich. Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren. European BSD Conference, Munich Pre-Planning http://berklix.org/conf/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:22:16PM +0100, Julian Stacey wrote: 5.0-DP2 (unlike 4.7) has no src/usr.bin/rdist - just ports/net/rdist6 rdist6 is supposed to be better, but no rdist after basic install is a pain. Has this been well debated already ? or should I file a Send-PR ? It was moved to the 44bsd-rdist port, because it's not particularly useful thesedays in the fact of better tools like rsync. Kris msg47703/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:22:16PM +0100, Julian Stacey wrote: 5.0-DP2 (unlike 4.7) has no src/usr.bin/rdist - just ports/net/rdist6 =20 rdist6 is supposed to be better, but no rdist after basic install is a pa= in. =20 Has this been well debated already ? or should I file a Send-PR ? It was moved to the 44bsd-rdist port, because it's not particularly useful thesedays in the fact of better tools like rsync. Thanks Kris, - But Rsync (1.5M) is also not in src/ ! - Rdist(1) is in the 4.3 UCB blue ring bound URM manual. Principle of least suprise could have left it. Rdist is more generic on older Unixes, which often have no rdist6 or rsync. - Does src/ have anything protocol compatible with most other older /or commercial Unix bases ? - 4.3 UCB URM does not even list man fortune(1) yet 5.0-DP2 src/games/fortune bloats 3735K. ports/net/44bsd-rdist takes 297K, 4.7 src/usr.bin/rdist is just 114K. - Please consider restoring rdist to FreeBSD. Thanks. Julian Stacey jhs @ berklix.com Computer Systems Engineer, Unix Net Consultant, Munich. Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren. European BSD Conference, Munich Pre-Planning http://berklix.org/conf/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 12:48:49AM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:22:16PM +0100, Julian Stacey wrote: 5.0-DP2 (unlike 4.7) has no src/usr.bin/rdist - just ports/net/rdist6 =20 rdist6 is supposed to be better, but no rdist after basic install is a pa= in. =20 Has this been well debated already ? or should I file a Send-PR ? It was moved to the 44bsd-rdist port, because it's not particularly useful thesedays in the fact of better tools like rsync. Thanks Kris, - But Rsync (1.5M) is also not in src/ ! Is there some reason you can't install it from /usr/ports/net/rsync? - Rdist(1) is in the 4.3 UCB blue ring bound URM manual. Principle of least suprise could have left it. Rdist is more generic on older Unixes, which often have no rdist6 or rsync. When was 4.3 UCB released? - Does src/ have anything protocol compatible with most other older /or commercial Unix bases ? Is there some reason you can't install /usr/ports/net/44bsd-rdist? - 4.3 UCB URM does not even list man fortune(1) yet 5.0-DP2 src/games/fortune bloats 3735K. ports/net/44bsd-rdist takes 297K, 4.7 src/usr.bin/rdist is just 114K. The size of fortune is irrelevant. - Please consider restoring rdist to FreeBSD. Thanks. No thanks. It was removed almost 2 years ago because better alternatives are available. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : - Please consider restoring rdist to FreeBSD. Thanks. : : No thanks. It was removed almost 2 years ago because : better alternatives are available. And the number of security problems with rdist are legion. A large component of the decision to remove it from the base was the high incidence of security problems with the original code. That, coupled with the rdist6 incompatibility and the better alternatives, lead us to remove it from the tree rather than update the code. Next thing you'll be wanting perl back in the base system :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 12:48:49AM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:22:16PM +0100, Julian Stacey wrote: 5.0-DP2 (unlike 4.7) has no src/usr.bin/rdist - just ports/net/rdist6 =20 rdist6 is supposed to be better, but no rdist after basic install is a pa= in. =20 Has this been well debated already ? or should I file a Send-PR ? It was moved to the 44bsd-rdist port, because it's not particularly useful thesedays in the fact of better tools like rsync. Thanks Kris, - But Rsync (1.5M) is also not in src/ ! Correct observation. [...Other stale arguments deleted...] rdist was conclusively moved from src/ to ports/ long ago and is not coming back. Kris msg47726/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
