Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Thomas Hurst

* Greg Black ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Joerg Wunsch wrote:
>
> > Galeon.
>
> Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box I
> tried it on when somebody told me to try it.

Tried Skipstone?  Gecko based GTK browser.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black

Maxim Sobolev wrote:
| On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:56, Greg Black wrote:
| > Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
| > I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.
| 
| It compiles/works here like a charm, however, if you do have problems
| with it please send a problem report to maintainers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
| and we will try to help you.

Thank you for the offer.  At present, I don't much care whether
Galeon works or not -- linux-netscape works well enough for my
needs.

I did not submit a problem report about galeon because I had
much more serious problems on the machine in question and they
needed (and still need) to be resolved first.

If I can ever get anybody interested in making a version of
FreeBSD later than 4.3 work on my laptop, then I'll have another
look at the Galeon question, as it was for the laptop that I was
trying to get it going.

As it stands, 4.4, 4.5 and current all have badly broken PCMCIA
support which makes them unusable.  Fortunately, 4.3 does not
have this breakage, but it would be a waste of time to play with
galeon on such an old release.

Greg

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Maxim Sobolev

On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:56, Greg Black wrote:
> Joerg Wunsch wrote:
> 
> | "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | 
> | >> Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
> | >> between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
> | >> CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
> | >> Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
> | > 
> | > What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
> | 
> | Galeon.
> 
> Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
> I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.

It compiles/works here like a charm, however, if you do have problems
with it please send a problem report to maintainers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
and we will try to help you.

-Maxim



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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black

"David O'Brien" wrote:
| On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 06:05:13AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
| > Garrett Wollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > What problems do you have with it?
| > 
| > Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
| > between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
| > CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
| > Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
| 
| What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
| Mozilla 0.9.8 was a disaster.  Opera 6 is such a disaster that I went
| back to 5.05.  [linux-]Netscape6 was marked BROKEN for a long time.
| konquor... well requires a lot of KDE bits to be installed.

Mozilla in all the variants I have tried is incapable of even
reliably downloading a file -- sometimes it works and sometimes
it turns it into complete junk, usually 20 Mbytes bigger than
the original.  Useless.

Many of the "secure" sites I need to use (banks, universities,
etc.) refuse to allow access from any release 6 browser.

Linux-netscape-4.7{6,9} handles everything I want, sometimes
with minor glitches, but well enough.  And I can leave it
running for weeks at a time without problems.  That's "good
enough" for me.  The alternatives that I have tried either don't
build or don't work and that means they are worse.

Greg

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Joerg Wunsch

As Greg Black wrote:

> | > What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
> | 
> | Galeon.
> 
> Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
> I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.

Once it builds, it's about the best browser so far. ;-)

The problems of its build process are that it depends on both
Mozilla and Gnome.  So if one of those prerequisites is broken,
Galeon has no chance.

You can always resort to one of the precompiled packages.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Greg Black

Joerg Wunsch wrote:

| "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| >> Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
| >> between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
| >> CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
| >> Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
| > 
| > What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
| 
| Galeon.

Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Joerg Wunsch

"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
>> between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
>> CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
>> Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
> 
> What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?

Galeon.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

Rich Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about http://www.dice.com/jobsearch/index.html

http://www.ofug.org/~des/dice.png

(the error at the top is because my proxy blocks doubleclick)

DES
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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I use Opera 6.  [...]
> Please try http://www.techiegold.com/ with Opera 6.

No problem: http://www.ofug.org/~des/techiegold.png

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:59:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
> 
> I use Opera 6.  Its interactive response is not as snappy as I'd like,
> but it's still far better than any other browsers I've used on
> FreeBSD, except w3m.

Please try http://www.techiegold.com/ with Opera 6.
This Opera hangs forever at 99%.  All Netscape varieties got at least
this far.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?

I use Opera 6.  Its interactive response is not as snappy as I'd like,
but it's still far better than any other browsers I've used on
FreeBSD, except w3m.

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