Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-26 Thread Yuri Pankov
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Yuri Pankov writes: >> There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, >> [...] The patch itself is attached. > > Could you please open a differential and add me as reviewer? https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18636 And there's already a PR for this:

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <865zvkpphn@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > I know our code is full of workarounds and theirs probably too. The > > question is should we? IMO no. > > Unfortunately, the world is imperfect and does not care about your >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Yuri Pankov writes: > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, > [...] The patch itself is attached. Could you please open a differential and add me as reviewer? DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. I don't speak for them, but I assure you that both their code and ours are full of workarounds for bugs in third-party software and hardware, and it is ridiculous to claim otherwise. > No. We do like Red Hat

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > I know our code is full of workarounds and theirs probably too. The > question is should we? IMO no. Unfortunately, the world is imperfect and does not care about your opinion. 90% of the hardware we run on deviates from the spec in some way or another and requires

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <86pntszlae@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. > > I don't speak for them, but I assure you that both their code and ours > are full of workarounds for bugs in

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > their bugs. Putting workarounds in our O/S to work around a bug in some > other vendor's virtualization is something I don't support. It's something we do *all the time*. Otherwise we'd just be a toy

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <861s681ypd@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > > their bugs. Putting workarounds in our O/S to work around a bug in some > > other vendor's virtualization is

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <82004750-097a-47e5-9981-86b4b7a5f...@gmail.com>, Enji Cooper writes : > > On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Cy Schubert = > wrote: > > =E2=80=A6 > > > Regarding the Red Hat bugzilla bug, looks like they're doing the right > > thing by reaching out to VMware. This should be our position as

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: … > Regarding the Red Hat bugzilla bug, looks like they're doing the right > thing by reaching out to VMware. This should be our position as well. > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > their bugs. Putting

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
rotected-headers="v1" > From: Yuri Pankov > To: Cy Schubert > Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , > Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= > , freebsd-current > Message-ID: <0503b382-d886-39a4-d265-b43d8adc1...@yuripv.net> > Subject: Re: workaround for VMw

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
protected-headers="v1" >> From: Yuri Pankov >> To: Cy Schubert >> Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , >> Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= >> , freebsd-current >> Message-ID: >> Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug trigg

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
> To: Cy Schubert > Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , > Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= > , freebsd-current > Message-ID: > Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 > changes > References: <20181009.wbmk9h5t050.

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <913730b6-c6f0-60b8-a589-e89e872b7...@yuripv.net>, Yuri > Pankov write > s: >> Yuri Pankov wrote: >>> In-Reply-To: l.gmail. >>> com> >>> Mark Peek wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper > wro= >>> te: =20 > >> On Dec 21, 2018, at

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <913730b6-c6f0-60b8-a589-e89e872b7...@yuripv.net>, Yuri Pankov write s: > Yuri Pankov wrote: >> In-Reply-To: > com> >> Mark Peek wrote: >> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wro= >> te: >> >=20 >> >> >> >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Mark

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 11:03 AM Yuri Pankov Mark Peek wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper > wrote: > > > >> > >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > >>> > >>> Mark Peek wrote: > Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
Mark Peek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > >> >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: >>> >>> Mark Peek wrote: Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal VMware desktop product contact. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> What

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Mark Peek
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > > > Mark Peek wrote: > >> Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal > >> VMware desktop product contact. > > > > Thank you. > > > >> What version of Workstation

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > Mark Peek wrote: >> Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal >> VMware desktop product contact. > > Thank you. > >> What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw >> Workstation 14 mentioned

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Yuri Pankov
Mark Peek wrote: > Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal > VMware desktop product contact. Thank you. > What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw > Workstation 14 mentioned but curious if it occurs on Workstation 15 > (latest). Running the

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Mark Peek
Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal VMware desktop product contact. What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw Workstation 14 mentioned but curious if it occurs on Workstation 15 (latest). Mark On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:19 PM Warner Losh

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Warner Losh
I've been hit by this as well. At least two others on IRC have had the same issue. Warner On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, made > >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 21, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > Hi, > > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, made > visible by the change to default values of IPQoS in OpenSSH 7.8p1, > making all ssh connections from the guest behind the NAT to fail with > obscure