Re: static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-12 Thread David O'Brien

On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 12:42:42PM +0400, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote:
> but /usr/bin and /usr/lib usualy live at the same filesystem and if
> /usr/lib may be broken, what we may say about /usr/bin?

Statically linked binaries in /usr/bin/ will still be usable.  You didn't
think about what I said.  Tar *is* a recovery tool.  I've killed
libc.so.* and ld-elf.os before suffiently bad that I was quite glad tar
was statically linked.

> maybe RELEASE-bin* must be splited? say... configs,binaries and developer
> stuff(includes,gcc stuff, lib*.a, developer's manpages)

Diffs?
 
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Re: static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-12 Thread Juriy Goloveshkin

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, David O'Brien wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 09:00:34PM +0400, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote:
> > Why a lot of files in /usr/bin(sbin) are static linked?
> > for example, tar: static - 272832 bytes(83416 dynamic)
>  
> IMO tar should live in /bin as it is used to restore a system from tape.
> I don't know why ``dump'' is in /usr/sbin -- only restore should be
> there.
> 
> /usr/bin/tar is statically linked so it isn't depended on /usr/lib/ which
> may be terribly broken (and thus why you are doing a restore).

but /usr/bin and /usr/lib usualy live at the same filesystem and if
/usr/lib may be broken, what we may say about /usr/bin?
I think utilities in /usr/... must be dynamicaly linked.

btw, I compared the size of bin-tarballs in 2.8 and current distributions.
I downloaded 2.8 by modem without spending SO many time...
current minimal installation require to download 30-35Mb!

maybe RELEASE-bin* must be splited? say... configs,binaries and developer
stuff(includes,gcc stuff, lib*.a, developer's manpages)

Bye
Juriy Goloveshkin



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Re: static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-11 Thread David O'Brien

On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 09:00:34PM +0400, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote:
> Why a lot of files in /usr/bin(sbin) are static linked?
> for example, tar: static - 272832 bytes(83416 dynamic)
 
IMO tar should live in /bin as it is used to restore a system from tape.
I don't know why ``dump'' is in /usr/sbin -- only restore should be
there.

/usr/bin/tar is statically linked so it isn't depended on /usr/lib/ which
may be terribly broken (and thus why you are doing a restore).

> is it magic of /usr/src/gnu folder?

Has nothing to do with it.
 
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static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-11 Thread Juriy Goloveshkin

Hi all!

Why a lot of files in /usr/bin(sbin) are static linked?
for example, tar: static - 272832 bytes(83416 dynamic)

is it magic of /usr/src/gnu folder?

Bye
Juriy Goloveshkin



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