You guys can argue the GPL thing to death and still not come to
a resolution. How many commercial products are running on top of
linux and not sharing their source? Lots. See any lawsuits flying?
I don't. Threats aside, it isn't going to happen. Threats with, it
is
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
: No. This issue was beaten to death multiple times, large amount of
: software was created based on this, and its legality is absolutely
: certain by now.
No. You are wrong. The fact that large amounts of software has been
created is
I am attempting to add some functionality to the loader, but have come
across a minor problem. Is there some way to include forth files,
given a string?
s" file" included (gforth example)
What I would like to do is read in a /boot/loader.rc.$ip or something
similar. This would
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:53:33PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Any specific types/brands of CF to IDE adapter you could recommend?
Either the tapr one (http://www.tapr.org) or the pcengines one
(http://www.pcengines.com) work. Timing
Hello!
Can someone tell me how to install sol7 under svr4 please?
I tried to install it this way:
1) added to kernel config:
options KTRACE #kernel tracing
options COMPAT_SVR4 # build emulator statically
pseudo-device streams # STREAMS network driver (required for
svr4).
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:16:51AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server which is
suddenly not the one you're
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Dillon
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 12:59 AM
To: Peter Seebach
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
You guys can argue the GPL thing to death and still
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "SteveB" writes:
: Since when is a product required to be open source to run on Linux? My
: understanding was if an product was developed using GPL'd code or
: libraries then that product is required to offer source. But just an
: application running on Linux, that
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Peter Seebach wrote:
I may go looking. I have a passel of '875 cards that *don't* work, for
one reason or another. The symptom is, the card "probes" (it is identified
by the SRM console as an '875 rather than getting only product/vendor ID), but
the SRM console
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server which is
suddenly not the one you're used to
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 10:39:40PM -0800, SteveB wrote:
...
New comers to Linux are getting intimidated hearing the constant trash
talk. It's far more productive to talk about why 'BSD is better.
Better yet, to try and see what good both have to offer, and make one's
choises based on an
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 07:40:35PM -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
Those are the kind of Linux people I dislike. Calmer people, rational
people, intelligent people, are often reasonable enough to simply be shown
FreeBSD, and they will comment on the merits of FreeBSD themselves.
And they will
SteveB wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Wes Peters
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:29 PM
To: Drew Eckhardt
Cc: SteveB; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sitting on hands (no longer Re: FreeBSD vs
Linux, Solaris,
David O'Brien wrote:
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server which is
suddenly
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 03:37:38PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
David O'Brien wrote:
our own committers to have sloppy habits that could lead a malicious code
added to the FreeBSD CVS source repository.
This is exactly the sort of problem we need to solve in a usable and secure
manner, so
Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex
Belits writes:
: Your attorneys are stupid.
Are they now? The GPL was designed to force companies to release
sources. The FSF put a lot of time and effort into it so that they
could force people to give back mods to gcc and the
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Matt Dillon wrote:
Yes, it's a pretty sad state of affairs. What annoys me the most is
that companies actually believe they are protecting something when
they don't make their device driver source or hardware documentation
available. It has been well
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 11:32:03 -0700
From: Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alex Belits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex
Belits writes:
: Your attorneys
On 24 Dec, Dan Langille wrote:
On 23 Dec 2000, at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote:
On 23 Dec 2000, at 13:25, David Preece wrote:
At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter
than say telnet. Or what
Your comments noted.
thanks
Jessem.
On 23 Dec, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD
'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD 'security' mailing
list.
Indeed. Please ignore him, he's a troll.
To
Your comments noted.
Jessem.
On 23 Dec, Bill Fumerola wrote:
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is possible. It is not trivial.
What leads you to believe that it's not trival?
A functioning brain.
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On 23 Dec, Bengt Richter wrote:
You are clueless as to the effect of your word choices.
Thank you for reading that.
I would beg to differ.
Please note that I am not writing this to flame, but in
an attempt to be helpful ;-)
I appreciate all person with the intent to help.
At 15:37
On 23 Dec, Wes Peters wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for your attention.
Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH.
The talk schedule is posted on:
http://www.svbug.com/events/
I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD
'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've re-read this sentence many times. I've made no
"implict" assertions. I you believe I have please
feel free to email me personally. Perhaps I could
have balace the statement with:
"about the goods and evils of SSH."
But again, that
On 25 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:16:51AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server
Hi,
I have a first working (but the code has many many whitespaces diff's
and I'm sure some errors) version of the TI-NetBSD-RPC code available.
It's a diff against CURRENT, but it'll work also on STABLE if you
adjust src/include/Makefile - this file is different from CURRENT.
The diff is
On 25 Dec, David O'Brien wrote:
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server which is
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: JKH, DG, CORE respond.
Core does not respond to mail not directed to it.
Warner
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
:
: JKH, DG, CORE respond.
Core does not respond to mail not directed to it.
Not to mention the basic problem of J Random Luser *demanding* a response.
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And we, the FreeBSD Project, don't do a thing to help this situation.
We change the SSH keys on the freebsd.org machines left and right w/o
*ANY* notice to committers that they have been changed. So we've trained
our own committers to have sloppy habits that could lead a malicious code
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Seebach writes:
: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes:
: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
: :
: : JKH, DG, CORE respond.
:
: Core does not respond to mail not directed to it.
:
: Not to mention the basic problem of J Random
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:46:16AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human
operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it
explicitly to do insecure things like
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 06:34:09PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
No, in several particulars. "The FreeBSD Project" doesn't change the SSH
keys on the FreeBSD.org machines.
Not changed for change sake, but failure to do anything to preserve them.
David has probably been drinking too much; it's
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 08:29:01PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Umm, are you actually talking about real incidents here, or just
spreading FUD?
REAL incidents. Please remember I've been a committer longer you have.
The last two times a freebsd.org host key has been changed, that I am
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David O'Brien" writes:
: Uh no. Both of those times that a message was sent out, it wasn't even
: signed (Internet on 10 May 2000 and Freefall on 16 May 2000). Hop on
: over the the archives on hub.freebsd.org and get your facts
"David O'Brien" wrote:
And the best we've
ever done is in the "HEADS UP: New host key for freefall!" thread started
by Peter Wemm on Tue, 16 May 2000 23:26:33.
.. which the thread and FUD was a total load of shit, because the original
keys were never announced or signed or anything. The new
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