Re: Kernel module options Was: Re: Fw: help me!!!!

2001-07-20 Thread Mike Smith
3) Steal an idea from Linux (gasp!), and have module dependencies. ie, load ipfw.ko and then before we load up natd, we check to see if ipdivert.ko is loaded and load it. Alternatively, loading ipdivert.ko (before loading ipfw.ko), will automagically load ipfw.ko since ipfw is

Proper way for *config(8) to load corresponding modules

2001-07-20 Thread Dima Dorfman
Most *config(8) programs, such as ifconfig(8), mdconfig(8), and ccdconfig(8), attempt to load their corresponding module if it isn't already loaded, or already compiled into the kernel. Looking at these programs, they achieve this task in (primarily) two different ways. The first uses modfind()

Panel Argues for Changing Social Security

2001-07-20 Thread Peter Pflaum
The Bush commission's report said the key date was 2016. That is when payroll tax revenues flowing into Social Security from workers and employers will fall short of benefit payments for the first time. At that point, the system will begin relying in part on interest payments from its vast

Re: CNN.com - Sen. Frist backs embryonic stem cell research - July 19, 2001

2001-07-20 Thread Peter Pflaum
- Original Message - From: The Rev. John Liebler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Pflaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: CNN.com - Sen. Frist backs embryonic stem cell research - July 19, 2001 These seem reasonable enough, don't they? No maybe 8 of the 10

Re: kernel malloc

2001-07-20 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 10:17:20AM +0100, vishwanath pargaonkar wrote: Hi, can any one please help me with this. i want allocate a memory in the kernel -a buffer of size 2k to 5k. can i do it using malloc with second parameter as M_TEMP and third as M_WAITOK. can anybody tell me what

Re: flock/pthread bug?

2001-07-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Pentchev wrote: I don't know if Terry was talking about the sched_yield() syscall, but if he was, then sched_yield(2) exists, at least in 4.x, and is documented as POSIX-compliant. No. He needs to yield the system CPU, not the CPU for his particular thread. In the user space threads

gigabit card drivers

2001-07-20 Thread MJL
Does 4.3 version support 3com or d-link's gigabit ethernet card? == WWW.XGFORCE.COM The Next Generation Load Balance and Fail Safe Server Clustering Software for the Internet. == To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: gigabit card drivers

2001-07-20 Thread Konrad Heuer
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, MJL wrote: Does 4.3 version support 3com or d-link's gigabit ethernet card? Yes, I've a system running perfectly with a 3Com 3c985-SX gigabit card. Regards Konrad Konrad HeuerPersonal Bookmarks: Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche

Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs

2001-07-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Jacob wrote: So the question is - should I keep the new behaviour that is probably a better default and will catch out fewer new users but may surprise some experienced users, or should I revert to the traditional default where `-R1' or `-b' are required to avoid boot-time hangs?

Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
Matthew Jacob wrote: So the question is - should I keep the new behaviour that is probably a better default and will catch out fewer new users but may surprise some experienced users, or should I revert to the traditional default where `-R1' or `-b' are required to avoid boot-time

Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs

2001-07-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Jacob wrote: Hmm, maybe we should implement the notion of critical_local and critical_net filesystems (a la NetBSD). Heck, I don't even need the distinction between net and local, just critical would do. All remote, critical filesystems would be blocking, and all others not.

[OT] POLA? (was Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs)

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Moran
Sometimes the stick of POLA should be broken. Off topic, I know, but it's going to bother me. What's POLA? -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: [OT] POLA? (was Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs)

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
'Principle of Least Astonishment' and something we should import from NetBSD: pilt uname -a NetBSD pilt 1.5.1_ALPHA NetBSD 1.5.1_ALPHA (PILT) #5: Thu Feb 8 12:01:03 PST 2001 mjacob@pilt:/export/src/NetBSD-1.5/syssrc/sys/arch/i386/compile/PILT i386 pilt /usr/games/wtf POLA POLA:

Re: [OT] POLA? (was Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs)

2001-07-20 Thread Christoph Sold
Bill Moran wrote: Sometimes the stick of POLA should be broken. Off topic, I know, but it's going to bother me. What's POLA? Policy Of Least Astonishment -- doing changes in a way which will annoy the least number of users. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Finding something useful - Among the protesters

2001-07-20 Thread Peter Pflaum
The protest is a good example of Globalization - "What is happening now hasn't happened since the anti-Vietnam war protests of the 1960s," he told me. "Young people from around the globe are coming together to campaign for economic justice - and our movement is growing." BBC News BUSINESS

Re: [OT] POLA? (was Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs)

2001-07-20 Thread Laurence Berland
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: I'll leave it up to you all to imagine what 'wtf WTF' is. We all know it stands for what's that for?... :) Laurence Berland http://www.isp.northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the

Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Peter Pflaum
I will be on this program Sunday at 10 - 11 AM on BBC - it is a webcast http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1444000/1444930.stmBBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad.url

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Moran
Does anyone have any explanation as to why this is coming through -hackers? Peter Pflaum wrote: I will be on this program Sunday at 10 - 11 AM on BBC - it is a webcast http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1444000/1444930.stm BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
No. Peter Pflaum responded when I asked him with a Quoi???!?!?!?! On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: Does anyone have any explanation as to why this is coming through -hackers? Peter Pflaum wrote: I will be on this program Sunday at 10 - 11 AM on BBC - it is a webcast

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Moran
Are you saying that he didn't even send them? Matthew Jacob wrote: No. Peter Pflaum responded when I asked him with a Quoi???!?!?!?! On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: Does anyone have any explanation as to why this is coming through -hackers? Peter Pflaum wrote:

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
He's saying Huh? and presumably 'looking into it'. On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: Are you saying that he didn't even send them? Matthew Jacob wrote: No. Peter Pflaum responded when I asked him with a Quoi???!?!?!?! On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: Does

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
My guess, fwiw, is that somebody subscribed freebsd-hackers to some eGroup toy and this is why this is happening. Joy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Moran
Matthew Jacob wrote: My guess, fwiw, is that somebody subscribed freebsd-hackers to some eGroup toy and this is why this is happening. Joy. I don't know. If it's coming from some eGroup, why is it originating at what looks like a dialup address, and running through Earthling? Looks like SPAM

interface cloning MFC

2001-07-20 Thread Brooks Davis
I plan to MFC the network interface cloning support and the gif modularization early next week unless someone has objections. I'd like to get it in before the code slush and since I'll be leaving for a week on the 31st, that means sometime early to mid next week to allow for any bug reports. I

RE: Compaq DL380

2001-07-20 Thread Milon Papezik
Hi all, I need to MFC changes in ida driver, which start backround firmware processing on Integrated SmartArray controllers (this allows automatic on-line rebuild of failed drives). I am going to do it in next few days. I understood that I shall avoid all changes for interrupt-entropy

Re: Compaq DL380

2001-07-20 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 09:07:00PM +0200, Milon Papezik wrote: Hi all, I need to MFC changes in ida driver, which start backround firmware processing on Integrated SmartArray controllers (this allows automatic on-line rebuild of failed drives). I am going to do it in next few days. I

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm probably completely dim today so please bear with me :/ Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. This box, a P2/266 has a 30G IDE disk. What I did is create ad0s1 - 256MB - holds root for -stable ad0s2 - 256MB - was

Re: interface cloning MFC

2001-07-20 Thread Brian Somers
I plan to MFC the network interface cloning support and the gif modularization early next week unless someone has objections. I'd like to get it in before the code slush and since I'll be leaving for a week on the 31st, that means sometime early to mid next week to allow for any bug

Re: interface cloning MFC

2001-07-20 Thread Brooks Davis
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 08:37:50PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: A diff is available at: http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/patches/gif-stable.diff You forgot: Index: LINT === RCS file:

NETBIOS Browsing?

2001-07-20 Thread Conrad Minshall
Does anyone know of any code which would help in browsing a Windows Network Neighbourhood? Something which would make broadcasts to find all the netbios name servers, and then query them to discover more. Code from Samba's nmblookup would be fine but it is GPL. -- Conrad Minshall ... [EMAIL

Re: NETBIOS Browsing?

2001-07-20 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Conrad Minshall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Does anyone know of any code which would help in browsing a Windows Network Neighbourhood? Something which would make broadcasts to find all the netbios name servers, and then query them to discover more. Code from Samba's nmblookup would be

Re: NETBIOS Browsing?

2001-07-20 Thread Alexander Langer
Ouch, I should actually read more carefully what you were asking, sorry. I guess smbfs doesn't help you here (don't know if it actually browses, but at least it's SMB stuff) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: NETBIOS Browsing?

2001-07-20 Thread Conrad Minshall
At 2:44 PM -0700 7/20/01, Alexander Langer wrote: Does anyone know of any code which would help in browsing a Windows Network Neighbourhood? Something which would make broadcasts to find all the netbios name servers, and then query them to discover more. Code from Samba's nmblookup would

Re: NETBIOS Browsing?

2001-07-20 Thread Conrad Minshall
At 2:45 PM -0700 7/20/01, Alexander Langer wrote: Ouch, I should actually read more carefully what you were asking, sorry. I guess smbfs doesn't help you here (don't know if it actually browses, but at least it's SMB stuff) grin Extending smbfs with browsing is exactly what I wish to do. --

Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)

2001-07-20 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: probably no committers had arcnet or could test it.. I have it and tried to test it last time with no success. I'll try and find some time to look at this stuff. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL

Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs

2001-07-20 Thread Ian Dowse
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Lambert writes: FWIW, I vote that we rever to the traditional default and require -R1 or -b to avoid boot time hangs. The standard behaviour for most NFS implementations that I'm aware of would do this. I agree; people at work have bitched about this. We

Re: Status of agpgart device

2001-07-20 Thread Coleman Kane
For the i440BX, it should be fully operational and work just exactly like the linux counterpart. You shouldn't need the agpgart tarball, it sohuld work (but only in XFree86 3.3.6). XFree86 4.x uses DRI exclusively. If you want to use that, you should visit dri.sourceforge.net. On Fri, Jul 20,

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 09:32:48PM +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm probably completely dim today so please bear with me :/ Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. This box, a P2/266 has a 30G IDE disk. What I did is create

Re: interface cloning MFC

2001-07-20 Thread Brian Somers
I plan to MFC the network interface cloning support and the gif modularization early next week unless someone has objections. I'd like to get it in before the code slush and since I'll be leaving for a week on the 31st, that means sometime early to mid next week to allow for any bug

Re: interface cloning MFC

2001-07-20 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:29:13AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: This works nicely on my -stale box. Thanks. One niggle though :) It's probably worth changing ``$FreeBSD: $'' to ``$FreeBSD$'' in your patched version. Without this, mergemaster assumes that the new version in

Re: Compaq DL380

2001-07-20 Thread Mike Smith
This sounds great; nothing else I can think of. Compaq are happy about this. 8) I need to MFC changes in ida driver, which start backround firmware processing on Integrated SmartArray controllers (this allows automatic on-line rebuild of failed drives). I am going to do it in next few

Re: Compaq DL380

2001-07-20 Thread Mike Smith
I need to MFC changes in ida driver, which start backround firmware processing on Integrated SmartArray controllers (this allows automatic on-line rebuild of failed drives). I am going to do it in next few days. I understood that I shall avoid all changes for interrupt-entropy

Official America's Cup Jubilee Announcement

2001-07-20 Thread Washington Promotions International
WASHINGTON PROMOTIONS INTERNATIONAL HONORED BY THE AMERICA'S CUP JUBILEE 2001 The America's Cup Jubilee Governing Committee in Cowes, United Kingdom has selected Washington Promotions International as the official U.S.A. merchandise licensee for the 150th Anniversary of the America's Cup.

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:32 PM +0200 7/20/01, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm probably completely dim today so please bear with me :/ Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. This box, a P2/266 has a 30G IDE disk. What I did is create ad0s1 - 256MB -

MFC FFS dirpref code?

2001-07-20 Thread Yifeng Xu
could anyone think about MFC FFS dirpref code? is it still not enough stable in CURRENT? I heard OpenBSD 2.9 has it already. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread Mike Meyer
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: I'm probably completely dim today so please bear with me :/ Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. This box, a P2/266 has a 30G IDE disk. What I did is create ad0s1 - 256MB - holds root for -stable ad0s2 -

Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 02:54:11PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: My guess, fwiw, is that somebody subscribed freebsd-hackers to some eGroup toy and this is why this is happening. Joy. I don't know. If it's coming from some eGroup, why is it originating at what looks like a dialup address, and

jmp after setting PE?

2001-07-20 Thread Weiguang SHI
Hi, Please forgive me if this seems too easy. http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/386htm/s10_03.htm; says: Immediately after setting the PE flag, the initialization code must flush the processor's instruction prefetch queue by executing a JMP instruction. The 80386 fetches and decodes

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 06:32:29PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm probably completely dim today so please bear with me :/ Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. This box, a P2/266 has a 30G IDE disk. What I did is create ad0s1 - 256MB - holds root for

Re: Suggestions for sysinstall / disklabel

2001-07-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:29:10PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Now, remember that during the boot-up process, the boot0 code requires that the partition to boot from be the first partition in the slice. The boot1 code assumes that the partition to boot from is labelled partition a. So,

Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)

2001-07-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : what is arcnet? Old, pre-ethernet technology. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Suggestions for sysinstall / disklabel

2001-07-20 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:27 PM -0700 7/20/01, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:29:10PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Now, remember that during the boot-up process, the boot0 code requires that the partition to boot from be the first partition in the slice. The boot1 code assumes that the

Re: Kernel module options Was: Re: Fw: help me!!!!

2001-07-20 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Mike Smith wrote: 3) Steal an idea from Linux (gasp!), and have module dependencies. ie, load ipfw.ko and then before we load up natd, we check to see if ipdivert.ko is loaded and load it. Alternatively, loading ipdivert.ko (before loading ipfw.ko), will

Re: dual booting -stable -current

2001-07-20 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:06 PM -0700 7/20/01, David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: Thing is I want to setup a dual-boot box, running -stable -current. What I did is create ad0s1 - 256MB - holds root for -stable ad0s2 - 256MB - was supposed to hold root for -current