Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poor performance.

2002-07-08 Thread John Kozubik
Also, before blaming netgraph, which may well be to blame, could it be that you have interference from some other source that's making things bad? The exactly every other packet being dropped does seem to be a big clue. I have ruled out interference as a contributor to these results. My

Re: FSCK/current and dump errors

2002-07-08 Thread dirkx
FYI: The error described below is fully fixed by moving from 1.10.2.4 to rev. 1.22 of traverse.c. It is the change from 1.21 - 1.22 which restores the ability to do a backup again. Thanks! Dw. On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if I should blame current - but see the

Re: dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state

2002-07-08 Thread Stephen McKay
On Friday, 5th July 2002, Martin Blapp wrote: This problem still persists. On my Laptop a ACCTON MiniPCI 100Mbit card does make this output. Then I loose my network connection. Only a ifconfig down/up of the interface helps. Are you running -current? I did a quick (but safe) hack in -stable

Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poor performance.

2002-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Sorry to cross post this, I want it in the archives. [discussion on using mulitilink acrsss wireless cards deleted] I have done similar, using two IP channels and with mpd as the one2many basically, assign real IP addresses to the 4 cards, on 2 separate 10.x.x.x/30 networks then open

Re: dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state

2002-07-08 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, Are you running -current? I did a quick (but safe) hack in -stable hoping that people would test -current and report back. Nobody did. Yes, I'm running CURRENT. If you are running -current, I will be able to make the error message go away, but that will not solve any hang problem.

Problems getting wireless card working with PCI adaptor

2002-07-08 Thread Wayne Pascoe
Hi all, Sorry to cross post this, but I'm having problems getting this card working under FreeBSD. It works under Windows XP and I've had reports of it working on RedHat 7.3. I'm trying to get a wireless card going in a desktop machine. The wireless card is a ORiNOCO Wireless LAN PC Card The

offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any support to do this (In the past That is how I did this). The machiine has 1 CD

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost :power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. : :I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any :support to do this (In the past That is how I did this). :The machiine has

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread John Nielsen
Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any support to do this (In the past That

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:08:27PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: ... :power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. : :I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any for what matters, sometimes I managed to recover the disk by just dd'ing a zero

kern/40003: Panic on boot w/4.6 and 4.6-stable (ATA problems)

2002-07-08 Thread Charles Sprickman
Hi, Just thought I'd check here, I haven't had much luck on -stable. Is this information helpful or do I need to get my remoted gdb stuff working to give useful info? It would be nice to see any ata issues ironed out before the point release. There still seem to be a decent number of people

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any support to do this (In the past That is how I did

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
this is not a 'reformat' what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller writes new track headers etc. On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, John Nielsen wrote: Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:08:27PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: ... :power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. : :I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any for what matters, sometimes I managed to recover the

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Kenneth Culver
this is not a 'reformat' what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller writes new track headers etc. You want to follow terry's advice then. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Kent Stewart
Julian Elischer wrote: One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any support to do this (In the past That is how I did

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Robert Klein
On Montag, 8. Juli 2002 23:46, Kent Stewart wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: The machiine has 1 CD drive and no floppy.. ^^ All of the manufacturers have a program that will do that. Many of them even produce a bootable floppy. Check their support web page.

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), e.g. SCSI. This is an urban ledgend.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Multi CDR burn

2002-07-08 Thread Keith Pitcher
I hate to bother the list, but after lots of searching I haven't found this out - maybe I missed something obvious : I have 8 scsi CDRs in a netserver 5 case, need to burn a number of CDs. I haven't seen anything in the ports that will do multi CDRs. So does anyone know of a program. On the

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), e.g. SCSI. This is an urban ledgend.. That SCSI disks don't use random inter-record

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:53:20PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), e.g. SCSI. This is an urban

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), e.g. SCSI. This is an urban ledgend.. Which part? :) --

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Kent Stewart
Robert Klein wrote: On Montag, 8. Juli 2002 23:46, Kent Stewart wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: The machiine has 1 CD drive and no floppy.. ^^ All of the manufacturers have a program that will do that. Many of them even produce a bootable floppy.

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Bakul Shah
One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any support to do this (In the past That is how I did this). The machiine has 1

Request for submissions: FreeBSD Bi-Monthly Development Status Report

2002-07-08 Thread Robert Watson
This is a solicitation for submissions for the May 2002 - June 2002 FreeBSD Bi-Monthly Development Status Report. All submissions are due by July 19, 2002. Submissions should be made by filling out the template found at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/report-sample.xml Submissions

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Peter Wemm
Julian Elischer wrote: this is not a 'reformat' what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller writes new track headers etc. The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do 'track writing' and have no fixed sectoring or sector positioning.

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
: Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks : with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), : e.g. SCSI. : : This is an urban ledgend.. : :No - it's SCSI Specs. :A SCSI Disk is required to savely finish the started sector even :on powerloss.

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:40:04PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: : Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks : with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), : e.g. SCSI. : : This is an urban ledgend.. : :No - it's SCSI Specs. :A SCSI

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do 'track writing' and have no fixed sectoring or sector positioning. ie: each time you write a single sector to a track, it does a read-modify-write of *THE ENTIRE TRACK*. This is why

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 8 July 2002 at 14:46:29 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track. I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't

[hackers] Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poorperformance.

2002-07-08 Thread David Gilbert
John == John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, before blaming netgraph, which may well be to blame, could it be that you have interference from some other source that's making things bad? The exactly every other packet being dropped does seem to be a big clue. John I have ruled out

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: According to the specs I had access to at Whistle they were pretty much the same low level device with different interface logic. The ATA drives I have seen had a format capacity just like their scsi cousins, just hard to find. Actually, if you read through the thread,

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:30:04PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Nowadays, what with the price of fast memory at such low levels, I'm buying more memory than I really need, just because it's *so* cheap, the price has gone up before, and it's possible (maybe likely) that next year's popular new

Re: [hackers] Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poorperformance.

2002-07-08 Thread John Kozubik
For most cards, there's no workaround. For a few cards, it's rhumored that you can hack the firmware (DLink is one I've heard mentioned). Thank you. I have heard of and witnessed these problems in the past with Lucent cards. Do you know if Cisco Aironet cards exhibit the same behavior ? I

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Chuck Robey
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:30:04PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Nowadays, what with the price of fast memory at such low levels, I'm buying more memory than I really need, just because it's *so* cheap, the price has gone up before, and it's possible

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Brian T . Schellenberger
On Monday 08 July 2002 09:30 pm, Chuck Robey wrote: | Nowadays, what with the price of fast memory at such low levels, I'm | buying more memory than I really need, just because it's *so* cheap, the | price has gone up before, and it's possible (maybe likely) that next | year's popular new app

RE: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Chris Knight
Howdy, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Silbersack Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 10:53 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Julian Elischer; John Nielsen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive. [snip] So, this

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: I've had direct experience with this. Seagate drives will indeed lose up to two sectors if you are writing during a power loss... and this is *GOOD* for the industry. You went to Men In Black II this weekend, didn't you? Do you have Conspiracy Theorist on

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Chris Knight wrote: Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes rather than sector writes? All the broken ones. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: Nowadays, what with the price of fast memory at such low levels, I'm buying more memory than I really need, just because it's *so* cheap, the price has gone up before, and it's possible (maybe likely) that next year's popular new app will need the memory. I'm probably not

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes rather than sector writes? All the broken ones. Could you be a little more specific? :-) -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | IM:

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Peter Wemm
Chris Knight wrote: Howdy, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Silbersack Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 10:53 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Julian Elischer; John Nielsen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Erik Trulsson wrote: Minimal amount of swap possible: No swap at all of course. Minimal swap if you want to be able to catch core dumps: Physical RAM size + 64K Minimal amount of swap you need: Depends on what you are doing, doesn't it? You don't need to configure any swap at all if you

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes rather than sector writes? All the broken ones. Could you be a little more specific? :-) Hard drive selection has always been an exclusion set, not an

RE: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Chris Knight
Howdy, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Wemm Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 12:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive. [snip] Does anyone have a

Re: [hackers] Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poorperformance.

2002-07-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : For most cards, there's no workaround. For a few cards, it's rhumored : that you can hack the firmware (DLink is one I've heard mentioned). All Prism 2 and 2.5 (and now 3) based cards can do this. At least with

Re: Problems getting wireless card working with PCI adaptor

2002-07-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wayne Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'm trying to get a wireless card going in a desktop machine. The : wireless card is a ORiNOCO Wireless LAN PC Card The PCI-PCMCIA ... : wi0: watchdog timeout Missing interrupts. : I have found that IRQ 5 is used

Re: [hackers] Re: multi-link 802.11b through netgraph yields poorperformance.

2002-07-08 Thread David Gilbert
John == John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For most cards, there's no workaround. For a few cards, it's rhumored that you can hack the firmware (DLink is one I've heard mentioned). John Thank you. I have heard of and witnessed these problems in the John past with Lucent cards. Do you

Pictausch??

2002-07-08 Thread nicolescholiz1
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Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Erik Trulsson wrote: Minimal swap if you want to be able to catch core dumps: Physical RAM size + 64K I've caught many core dumps with swap == RAM. Am I just getting lucky, or am I losing 64K of the image? Crash dumps good. I beg to differ.

Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.

2002-07-08 Thread Cy Schubert - CITS Open Systems Group
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Lambert writes: Julian Elischer wrote: According to the specs I had access to at Whistle they were pretty much the same low level device with different interface logic. The ATA drives I have seen had a format capacity just like their scsi cousins, just

Re: swap huge mem systems

2002-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Thus spake Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Erik Trulsson wrote: : Minimal swap if you want to be able to catch core dumps: Physical RAM : size + 64K : :I've caught many core dumps with swap == RAM. Am I just getting :lucky, or am I losing 64K of the image? : : Crash dumps good. : :I beg