Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Jordan K Hubbard wrote: This one's a bit like government. Everyone has an opinion about how it should work or what it could be doing better, but very few people want to actually get involved in changing it. :-) It's not so much that, as that there are so many politicians waiting in the wings

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
I did try to get core to bless the libh effort and, in so doing, get more people to jump in and help Alex and Max, but it seems this particular bill's more like health care - nobody wants to touch it or sponsor it through the senate lest their names be linked with any failure. :-) - Jordan

Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating toBSDsettlement agreement

2003-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 18 June 2003 at 2:38:34 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Yes, it reminded me of that thread, but wkt was actually referring to System III, not 32V. I am also pretty certain that it was widely stated at the time that the

Re: struct ipc_perm

2003-06-19 Thread Gary Jennejohn
Dmitry Sivachenko writes: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:08:37PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: Dmitry Sivachenko writes: Hello! Is there any reason why struct ipc_perm is not protected by #ifdef _KERNE L in ipc.h? Is it supposed to be used from userland? It's needed by

Re: struct ipc_perm

2003-06-19 Thread Dmitry Sivachenko
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:56:41AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: Dmitry Sivachenko writes: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:08:37PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: Dmitry Sivachenko writes: Hello! Is there any reason why struct ipc_perm is not protected by #ifdef _KERNE L in

Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relatingtoBSDsettlement agreement

2003-06-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 19 June 2003 at 1:29:37 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 18 June 2003 at 2:38:34 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Yes, it reminded me of that thread, but wkt was actually referring to System III, not 32V. I am also

open() and ESTALE error

2003-06-19 Thread Andrey Alekseyev
Hello, I've been trying lately to develop a solution for the problem with open() that manifests itself in ESTALE error in the following situation: 1. NFS server: echo file01 2. NFS client: cat file01 3. NFS server: echo file02 mv file02 file01 4. NFS client: cat file01 (either old

Re: YAPIB (was: Drawing graphics on terminal)

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 11:40:13AM -0400, The Anarcat wrote: - Whether the installer is graphical or not is not the issue. Grey boxes on a blue background with yellow, red and black text is just plain ugly to a society that understands art and interior design. I know you're limited on

nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Bushkov
Good day! Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? If there is no, who's currently working on it? Michael A. Bushkov Computer Center of Rostov State University mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: struct ipc_perm

2003-06-19 Thread Philip Reynolds
Gary Jennejohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38 lines of wisdom included: Dmitry Sivachenko writes: Any ideas? The usual way to handle this sort of change is to put any new structure elements at the end so that existing applications don't get confused. They simply aren't aware the new elements

Re: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Michael Bushkov wrote: Good day! Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? If there is no, who's currently working on it? You can use bind in caching only mode. A far suprerior solution to the problem at hand. So there is no need for takoje malenkoje gawno as nscd is

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:23:42PM +0300, Samy Al Bahra wrote: A plugin-based architecture will allow us to choose between various UIs (ncurses, QT, etc...). Yup. Trick is to make the plugins as user-definable as possible. The trick here (and i've said this elsewhere, probably uk-users) is

Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relatingtoBSDsettlement agreement

2003-06-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: I suppose you mean John Lions. Yes. I always spell his name wrong. He got into a lot of trouble for that, and I doubt he would have got away with it in the USA. Really? Can you point to the signed non-disclosure agreement that

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 12:12:15PM -0700, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: I was wondering when Jordan was going to come and beat me up... :-) Hmmm. That is an interesting statement given that libh has not made any attempt so far to pretty up sysinstall or has really provided anything in the way of

Re: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Grant
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: Michael Bushkov wrote: Good day! Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? If there is no, who's currently working on it? You can use bind in caching only mode. A far suprerior solution to the problem at hand. So

Re: open() and ESTALE error

2003-06-19 Thread Andrey Alekseyev
Corrections: - the patch is against STABLE - I know the second lookup will fail if the *current* directory itself is stale :) Could anyone please be so kind to comment this issue? In particular, I'd like to know if I need NDINIT before entering vn_open() again, as there are several comments

Re: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Chris Shenton
Michael Bushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? For DNS information, have a look at dnscache from the djbdns suite. Small, secure, fast. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html http://www.lifewithdjbdns.org/ If you're trying to cache other

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Peter McGarvey
* Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-06-19 14:34:36 BST]: I think getting a focused group together who want to get FBSD onto the desktop would be a good idea. At the moment, there is lots of talk about installers, package management, etc. including this thread, clogging up either

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Robinson
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 03:50:07PM +0100, Peter McGarvey wrote: I'm with you on this. You'll regret it... :-) Although [EMAIL PROTECTED] implies FreeBSD is currently unfriendly, which IMHO is decidedly not the case. So as we're talking about making it easier to run FreeBSD on the desktop,

Re: open() and ESTALE error

2003-06-19 Thread Andrey Alekseyev
Another correction: - statement below is valid for a configuration where nfsaccess_cache_timeout is generally less than acmin, otherwise chances are the failure will be VOP_OPEN while requesting new attributes by a call to VOP_GETATTR which is called from vn_open(). If nfs_access() decides to go

Re: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Jan Grant wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: Michael Bushkov wrote: Good day! Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? If there is no, who's currently working on it? You can use bind in caching only mode. A far suprerior solution to the problem at

Re: Drawing graphics on terminal

2003-06-19 Thread Peter McGarvey
* Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-06-19 16:01:12 BST]: On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 03:50:07PM +0100, Peter McGarvey wrote: I'm with you on this. You'll regret it... :-) I'd likely regret not jumping on board more ;-) Although [EMAIL PROTECTED] implies FreeBSD is currently

Re: YAPIB (was: Drawing graphics on terminal)

2003-06-19 Thread Tim Kientzle
Paul Robinson wrote: As to what I'm writing, well, I'm going to do the design in about four weeks time, and anybody who is interested can take a look. An announcement will probably go up on -hackers and -libh... I want something that works. To be honest, just something that abstracts

Re: YAPIB (was: Drawing graphics on terminal)

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Robinson
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:42:20AM -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: When you get ready to do some work, let me know. I've Will do. Just need to move, get DSL installed, and clear down some work and I'm looking at a year of clear weekends and evenings. And this is biting me up inside now... :-)

Re: open() and ESTALE error

2003-06-19 Thread Andrey Alekseyev
In case anyone interested I wrote a paper for my own reference on the FreeBSD NFS open() and attribute cache behavior. It can be found here: http://www.blackflag.ru/patches/nfs_attr.txt ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Fw: MTU Path Discovery Problem

2003-06-19 Thread Koroush Saraf
PMTUD Black Hole ProblemPlease take a look at this possible code Problem? If not, please read the message below to find out the original problem! Is this a code problem in ip_input.c, This code is from FreeBSD 4.8 that I just installed on my computers. ip_forward ? It looks to me like case

Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relatingtoBSDsettlement agreement

2003-06-19 Thread Ed Hall
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 19 June 2003 at 1:29:37 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 18 June 2003 at 2:38:34 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Yes, it reminded me of that thread, but wkt was actually referring to

Networking problem

2003-06-19 Thread Tkachenko, Artem N
Hi, I posted similar question some time ago but I guess I misstated the problem. I will be more careful this time. Here is my situation: Node A - LAN1 - Node B - LAN2 - Node C Node A: OS: Win2K IP Address (to LAN1): 129.197.23.232 Node B: OS: FreeBSD 4.6 IP address (to LAN1):

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2003-06-19 Thread Quiz
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Opensource.org gone?

2003-06-19 Thread Jim Durham
After reading that really great article last night on opensource.org about the SCO thing , I tried to bring it up tonight and it looks like both their nameservers are down. nslookup returns unknow host/domain. Makes you wonder -- -Jim ___

Re: Opensource.org gone?

2003-06-19 Thread Josef Grosch
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:08:34PM -0400, Jim Durham wrote: After reading that really great article last night on opensource.org about the SCO thing , I tried to bring it up tonight and it looks like both their nameservers are down. nslookup returns unknow host/domain. Makes you

Re: vr(4) duplex problems

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 17:29, Daniel O'Connor wrote: ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus1 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Nothing out of the ordinary there, but perhaps we're messing up by _not_ recognizing a specific PHY and doing

Re: vr(4) duplex problems

2003-06-19 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Hmm, well all I could manage was a 5 port micro switch. It is made by Alloy but can autodetect crossover (MDX?). It works fine with the vr port doing autodetect, so I guess it's an interaction with the older switch. No idea how ammenable to

Re: vr(4) duplex problems

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 20 June 2003 15:43, Mike Silbersack wrote: However, if you have an interest in learning about the internal workings of PHYs, I'll be glad to commit patches for you. :) Hehe, fair enough! For the record - vr0: VIA VT6102 Rhine II 10/100BaseTX port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem

Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating toBSDsettlement agreement

2003-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Really? Can you point to the signed non-disclosure agreement that he violated in order to publish his commentary? The U.S. was not nearly as anal about this stuff until the 1980's. Things have got worse, yes. But certainly there was enough trouble in the

Re: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Chris Shenton wrote: Michael Bushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? For DNS information, have a look at dnscache from the djbdns suite. Small, secure, fast. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html http://www.lifewithdjbdns.org/ If

Re[2]: nscd for freebsd

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Bushkov
Hello Terry, Friday, June 20, 2003, 9:28:24 AM, you wrote: TL Chris Shenton wrote: Michael Bushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me if there is an implementation of nscd for FreeBSD? For DNS information, have a look at dnscache from the djbdns suite. Small, secure, fast.