Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-04-30 22:34, Eric Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020572.html mentions a patch to disable the boot manager beep, and also discusses having it optional. Does something like the

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 10:31, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-04-30 22:34, Eric Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020572.html mentions a patch to disable the boot manager beep, and also

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal preference an option :) i do

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris, are straight BSD. Wrong. Solaris is SysV with some BSD bits

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the same time I also patched so that NTFS filesystem was recognised as DOS, to get rid of the ?? on standard dual-boot Win/FreeBSD machines. Huh? I did that more than a year ago: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src% ncvs log -r1.14 sys/boot/i386/boot0/boot0.S

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal preference an option :) The beep didn't appear until 5.X (and generated

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the same time I also patched so that NTFS filesystem was recognised as DOS, to get rid of the ?? on standard dual-boot Win/FreeBSD machines. Huh? I did that more than a year ago: You beat me to it then ;-)

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 13:17, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal preference an

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 07:22, Eric Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe an alternate option is to compile both the beeping and a beepless boot loader, and have the boot0cfg program install the right one depending on a command line option? Hmm.. Maybe that's too cheesy.. It is kind of overkill.

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 07:22, Eric Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe an alternate option is to compile both the beeping and a beepless boot loader, and have the boot0cfg program install the right one depending on a command line option? Hmm.. Maybe that's too cheesy..

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Lang
Hi, Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: [..] off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. [..] WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it's off by default unless you turn it on Regardless what you decide, if such an option is created, please call it

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: [..] off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. [..] WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it's off by default unless you turn it on Regardless what you decide, if

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Maslan
On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris, are

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Lucas Holt
On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. It was definitely BSD. It makes sense considering Bill Joy co- founded

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Jamie Bowden
On 5/1/06, Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. It was definitely BSD. It

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Allen
On Monday 01 May 2006 9:47 am, Lucas Holt wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. It was definitely BSD.

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 08:17, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal preference an option :)

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 09:07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: [..] off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. [..] WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it's off by

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 08:22, Eric Anderson wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the university

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:47:54AM -0400, Lucas Holt wrote.. On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. 4.1.2

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:09:36AM -0400, Jamie Bowden wrote.. On 5/1/06, Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for doing Linux

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote.. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you watch

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, that broke some things and assumptions I was making.

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, that broke some things and assumptions

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other things got changed

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:16:04PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500,

gvinum start volume returns EBUSY

2006-05-01 Thread Rick C. Petty
When rebuilding a degraded plex with gvinum start volume on a mounted filesystem, gvinum reports errno: 16 (EBUSY). In the CVS: src/sys/geom/vinum/geom_vinum_init.c, lines 363-364 (of MAIN, added 2005-Oct-09, rev 1.10.2.1) has the check: if (gv_is_open(p-geom)) return

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Coleman Kane
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 12:29:20PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:16:04PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Allen
On Monday 01 May 2006 2:43 pm, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote.. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Lucas Holt
Jamie Bowden wrote: SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.?(1 maybe? It's been a long time now.)) was the final release of SunOS 4. It was basically 4.1.3_U1 with a couple of other minor fixes merged in. I spent a very long time porting software from SunOS 4 to Solaris 2.3|4|5 during that time as we

which running thread gests the external signal

2006-05-01 Thread Alin-Adrian Anton
Hi Hackers, I'm working on a threaded daemon and I'm trying to make it sysadmin friendly. For this, I'm working with external signals. I noticed different behaviour between BSD and Linux for this. When I send an external SIGHUP (rehashing the config file) on BSD the thread receiving the

Re: which running thread gests the external signal

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: Hi Hackers, I'm working on a threaded daemon and I'm trying to make it sysadmin friendly. For this, I'm working with external signals. I noticed different behaviour between BSD and Linux for this. When I send an external SIGHUP (rehashing the

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 14:02, John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 09:07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: [..] off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'.