,--- You/Tom (Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:44:09 +) *
| On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
| Because loading modules through loader.conf is
| veeryy slooww I added an rc.d script called
| kld that will load the specified modules
,--- b. f. (Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:50:01 +) *
| Most of these questions are more suitable for the freebsd-stable or
| freebsd-questions mailing lists, rather than freebsd-hackers.
I hesitated about starting this 8 to 9 thread here or on *-stable,
and decided to use this list only because I
Sticking with the same list as in my first message re the 8 to 9 surprises:
| From: Alex Goncharov alex-goncha...@comcast.net
| To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
| Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:34:36 -0500
| Subject: 8 to 9: A longer wait early in the boot...
|
| About a week ago, I made a jump
,--- You/matt (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:31:03 -0800) *
| It's in the kernel in later versions of 9-CURRENT and in 9-RELEASE on.
|
| You can't kldload or unload it because it's not a module, but part of
| the kernel.
| That doesn't preclude the presence of the file, I think.
|
| 'kldstat -v |
,--- You/Freddie (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:08:18 -0800) *
| So, how do I go about finding and modifying the sound card pin
| assignments in FreeBSD 9? (If I can't do it without temporarily
| installing FreeBSD 8, it would be a huge disappointment. :)
|
| Stick the hint into /boot/loader.conf
,--- You/Alexander (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:36:53 +0200) *
| On 02/17/12 18:20, Alex Goncharov wrote:
| How do I find the correct hint if I can't reload the sound module in
| the new kernel environment and explore 'dmesg', '/dev/sndstat' and the
| physical headphones with the new hint without
,--- I/Alex (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:10:31 -0500) *
| Being mostly a FreeBSD freeloader (or a marginal contributor), I
| shouldn't be complaining, and I am not, but permit me to make a
| personal biased judgment: losing the ability to do a practically
| important thing (a dynamic sound card
,--- You/Alexander (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:56:18 +0200) *
| On 02/17/12 19:43, Alex Goncharov wrote:
| A technical question: I have the saved (from 8) copies of
| /boot/device.hints for the laptops in question which have lines like:
| ...
| What's the best way to use this in 9? To add
,--- You/matt (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:09:38 -0800) *
| For what it's worth, it's just a change in GENERIC. It's not hard to
| compile a kernel with different options,
That's what I've been doing for years, with e.g.
# options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols
#
,--- You/matt (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:45:35 -0800) *
| Given that there's apparently little penalty for module vs. kernel,
| I can see not including it by default in GENERIC. I do have a
| laptop that won't make console tones unless snd_hda is NOT loaded,
| which is odd, but never worth
,--- You/rank1see...@gmail.com (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:08:02 +0100) *
| For me as a user, that would be a much preferable approach, instilled
| long ago by Linux. I don't like unused stuff around, and I like to
| understand what I am using.
|
| Some build kernel confutation parameters
,--- You/Doug (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:14:24 -0800) *
| I think the question is not, What should be in the kernel? but rather
| What should be on by default? *How* those things are provided is a
| different question.
|
| One could argue that an intelligent installer combined with a more
| modular
About three years ago, my Compaq Presario F700 notebook got damaged
in BIOS: it carried Windows Vista then, and that OS could not be
recovered from the system image disks I had created for a brand-new
machine. The damage was somewhere around BIOS/firmware area -- the
way the console looked on a
,--- I/Alex (Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:34:36 -0500) *
| There was one other odd thing that I noticed then: while Debian booted
| without a delay, FreeBSD 8 made a long pause after passing the boot
| menu: it would display the '/' character and sit there for some
| non-trivial amount of seconds. I
,--- You/Steven (Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:23:15 -) *
| Two things spring to mind which could help:
| 1. The reduce the slice sampling size in sys/boot/zfs/zfs.c which was
| increased recently
Your mentioning of ZFS made me realize that I was building
RELENG_{8,9} with /etc/src.conf not
,--- You/Doug (Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:47:39 -0700) *
| Windows and the *1st* FreeBSD partition just fine, but if I try to boot
| the 2nd FreeBSD partition grub just boots the first one again.
Are you using a chainloader?
You should, in my experience; something like that in grub's menu.lst
or
,--- I/Alex (Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:13:18 -0400) *
| title fbsd-b64 -- chainloader (hd0,2,a)
| root (hd0,2,a)
| chainloader +1
| title fbsd-b32 -- chainloader (hd0,3,a)
| root (hd0,3,a)
| chainloader +1
,--- You/Doug (Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:54:01 -0700) *
|
| What you posted below seems
,--- I/Alex (Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:59:59 -0400) *
| Aren't you pointing GRUB to the same location (the third partition on
| hd0), in both entries?
,--- You/Doug (Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:04:25 -0700) *
| Ah, right, sorry. The bit I pasted was not the bit I actually used.
:-)
| I had changed the
,--- You/Dag-Erling (Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:11:50 +0200) *
| Simon L. Nielsen si...@freebsd.org writes:
| It's not entirely that simple. The ABI on a stable branch like 7.x
| should be backward compatible, but there isn't a guarantee of forward
| compatibility. IE, 7.0 binary should be able
,--- You/Kostik (Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:20:48 +0300) *
| A CMUCL binary built on a pre-7.1 (?) release of FreeBSD, will crash
| almost immediately when run on 7.1 (well, if memory serves).
|
| This has been an issue for 7.0, and it was explicitely handled, see r174254.
I know it was (I was
,--- You/Dag-Erling (Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:20:59 +0200) *
| Tim Kientzle kient...@freebsd.org writes:
| The difference between ps, ps -w, and ps -ww is pretty
| significant for Java, in particular. Java command lines
| are typically enormous (thank you, CLASSPATH) which makes
| ps -ww often
,--- You/Ivan (Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:02:56 +0200) *
| Feel free to take a crack at this and send the results to the list for
| review. Improving the documentation is always a worthy goal.
|
| I would do that for sure if everyone thinks this ps behavior is
| something that should be kept
,--- You/Peter (Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:12:25 +1100) *
| And along the way, they've dropped things like integration testing,
| avoiding regressions and avoiding POLA violations.
Since I don't care about the new X anymore, I can afford to express my
opinion bluntly: the Xorg we have in ports now
,--- You/Mark (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:41:07 -0600) *
| I'm not at my box right now, but it went something like this:
| ...
| I might write up some better instructions when I have the time, but
| I really don't have a good place to put them.
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