GSoC: PKGNG GUI Proposal Available for Review

2013-05-03 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Thank you everyone for helping me create a suitable project to propose. I have submitted a draft of my proposal, though I am still in the process of enhancing it. If anyone has the time, please check it out and I'll gladly accept any feedback. I am new to Google Summer of Code, and just

Re: GSoC: PKGNG GUI Proposal Available for Review

2013-05-03 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Matt Olander m...@ixsystems.com wrote: Great proposal, Justin! I look forward to seeing your work ;) Cheers, -matt Thank you very much for your support, Matt! As soon as I start committing code, I will share a link to my repository on this mailing-list.

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced that it's needed; you may be thinking of Linux's menuconfig, but I think that is because of the complexity. Chris While configuring the kernel may be trivial to someone who understands the process and their systems needs,

Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
I agree. Also, the kind of people who compile their kernels probably feel more comfortable in console mode :) The frontend for pkgng and freebsd-update might have a bigger user base. Hello Fernando, thank you for pointing me towards kports earlier. I appreciate your help. It is starting

Re: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Mostly off-topic for this thread, but improving the boot process to auto-detect hardware and auto-load kernel modules would be really nice. That way, GENERIC would be very small, with just the basic frameworks required (CAM, USB, PCI, TCP/IP, etc), and all the actual drivers would be loaded

Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
I think the interface to pkgng and freebsd-update are still interesting; at least more worthwhile than the kernel configuration one. I think the pkgng one has the edge, since packages are updated far more often than base, and it's easier to track base. Now you are at a stage where you

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
It _is_ easy. But having a nice graphical tool which draws a pretty table of GENERIC and NOTES together with useful information about the possible options and devices would be a handy thing to have IMHO. Let's make FreeBSD userfriendly :-) I agree completely, hopefully we can make that

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
During some tests with cut down kernels one can easily make unbuildable kernel, for example include option A, while omit hiddenly required B. If there could be framework at least with deps tracking/checking, what could be good for begin. Both for configuring, and code clean up. If this will

Re: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Side note: I agree that we would really, really like FreeBSD more user friendly. However, is kernel configuration where we really want to start? Just how much of the user base reconfigures their kernels, anyway? Wouldn't effort be better spent on making normal installation, maintenance

Re: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
You'll probably want to get in touch with the PC-BSD folks. As they are moving to pkgng for everything, they are updating their Python-based GUIs to work with it. Might be a possibility to work together, or to build off what they have, or to get ideas/inspiration for a more general tool. I

Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-23 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Justin I say stick to FreeBSD-update . My reason is, as Pkgng becomes more popular , a front end for ports will be less useful as binary packages become more popular . Kports is a monster program , you should set a reasonable goal ,and target dates; which may be hard with a cleanup project

GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-21 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Hello everyone once again, I decided to split this from my previous thread because the nature of my questions has changed. I benefited from the last thread, and I am grateful to those who responded to it. For me Google Summer of Code is a big opportunity, and my interest in

GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
I am excited for this year's Google Summer of Code, and I have a project in mind that I am working to propose. I am a CS major and have experience with Qt, C++ and shell scripting. I have been developing on FreeBSD for several years, and I am looking to tackle developing a new Qt

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Thank you for your advice! I have already sent an email to Colin, and I did indeed take the idea from that page. Justin Muniz On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 14 April 2013 07:11, Justin Edward Muniz justin.mu...@maine.edu wrote: I am excited

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
I think GUI front ends to freebsd-update, portsnap, or pkgng would all be useful. One thing I would look into though, is what PC-BSD offers. They may already have similar things. Very interesting, I am checking out the source for PC-BSD's updater to study it. Portsnap and pkgng seem like

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
Please don't mix the two, they are related but their usages do not really overlap. portsnap(8) only deals with keeping the ports(7) tree and the /usr/ports/INDEX file up to date. PKGNG (like the old pkg_* tools) is mostly concerned with registering built ports as packages or installing

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Justin Edward Muniz
It seems we already have something similar in the ports[1] collection. There is also a newer version[2] using Qt4 but it seems more limited. It might be worth a look at those first. [1] ports-mgmt/kports [2] ports-mgmt/kports-qt4 Yes, I just found those GUI programs myself. No sense