in, so of course it has to have storage space
in user space.
If you're passing in a pointer to a structure elsewhere, you should be
using _IOR() anyway, since you don't want the pointer copied back out.
In this case, the interface is the same purely for orthagonality's sake.
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e to allow more than one opener.
The SMBus code is dearly in need of a maintainer. 8(
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or the current BIOS
> save to disk functionality.
Can we guarantee that we can find this area? On eg. the Dell i7500 that
I've been playing most with, it's a file on a FAT filesystem, and the
BIOS will only "find" it if the filesystem is in the 'active' partition
at
led' have any effect?
It shouldn't in your case, as you're performing your own resource
allocation. It's possible that IRQ 12 is a poor choice with your board.
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uspend; ie.
leaving applications open, etc. IMO this isn't really something worth a
lot of effort to us, and it has a lot of additional complications for a
"server-class" operating system in that you have to worry about network
connections from other systems, not just _to_ oth
irst has been accepted?
This will allow non-ACPI-represented drivers to participate in
determining which suspend level(s) can actually be supported by the
hardware...
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methods.)
We also have a problem in that we'll need a separate suspend file for
system memory, since we can't just up and use swap (which may already be
busy).
I would be inclined to start with some of the easier states first. 8)
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isk? I truly hope the answer is not to the effect of requiring
> shitloads of drivers.
Yup. Including a driver for each different motherboard (or in some
cases, each motherboard family).
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ces varable, eg.
network_interfaces="xl0 lo0"
As otherwise the startup scripts don't know to do anything about it.
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at offer EMP (most of these also offer
BIOS-over-serial support, actually - as do a number of other vendors,
IIRC AMI do this on some of their boards as well).
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> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:49:23 PDT, Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> >8) Actually, the things that really bother me are eg. interrupt routing
> >and the ACPI GPIO bits, since the former is board-specific and you *must*
> >know about it to set PCI up, and the latter is often n
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:37:51 PDT, Mike Smith wrote:
>
> >ie. "LinuxBIOS won't initialise the system correctly, so you'd better
> >clean up after it"?
>
> More like it ain't complete and is intended to boot Linux, so anything
> that Linux
't initialise the system correctly, so you'd better
clean up after it"?
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> Mike Smith wrote:
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> > > > I'd suggest you go talk to Parag Patel, who's just wasted about three
> > > > months of his life trying to make SmartFirmware run on _one_ supposedly
> > > > well-documented board. Parag is nobody's fo
at the crunchgen manpage.
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> So, I repeat: easily done, not acceptable to freebsd core.
And again I tell you, no. Quite acceptable, not easily done. If someone
does it, we'll happily play along. I don't understand why you don't
understand this.
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> you can get, essentially, and instant-on rommable FreeBSD if this
> were done, and I can think of lots of things to do with that!
You can come fairly close to this already with the right approach, it's
just expensive.
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> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:33:36AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> > [mjy]
> > > ifconfig_vr0="195.58.183.77 netmask 255.255.255.248"
> > > static_routes="0 1"
> > > route_0="-net 195.58.161.96 -netmask 255.255.255.240 -iface vr0"
want to use the above default route, you need
to give your machine an address on the same network as your gateway, most
trivially by aliasing it onto the vr0 interface.
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he API
needs to be extended to these objects after bootup.
*sigh* So much to do, so little time. Yadda yadda. 8)
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emulation. 8(
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eight to their otherwise
unrelated pet cause. "Really small embedded systems" appear to be the
Cool Cause Du Jour.
> Seems like everything is black/white for you lately Mike. Thought about
> taking a vacation to cool off and relax?
Let me know how yours is doing you, and I mig
tack an integer on the end and start incrementing it until you get ENOENT.
Basically the same way you get the list of network interfaces.
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> It seems Mike Smith wrote:
> > > Does anyone KNOW of these working under the
> > > new drivers? What about setup?
> > > I've seen plenty about people failing (in 98-99)
> > > to get tehm going but the archives are silent on the topic
> > >
They work OK, but you need to pull the BIOS (ie. not boot from them).
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fusing this with an old, unrelated connector which was aligned
with a PCI slot. This is a completely different animal.
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> I know the many UNIXes still have a cap at 65535 (is Linux one of them?), and
> I interpeted that as an error message, not a warning. I was silly :)
Actually, it's wire protocols that are the issue; NFSv2 in particular.
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g here?
How about this line from :
typedefu_int32_t uid_t; /* user id */
It pays to do your own research - then you only get to look silly in
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s possible.
I have a lot of Mylex hardware around here (obviously enough), and I
can't say their stuff is any worse than anyone else's.
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h to ASUS about this, I guess. 8(
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t I've only come
> across market-speak.
>
> What does it do?
It conects to the AC97 modem codec in the VIA chipset; you put the modem
line interface on a card and stick it in there. ie. it's a neat way to
again reduce the cost of a WinModem.
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offer us at this time. We don't need one; the problems it might be
applied to solve have already been solved differently, and we are
(generally) happy with the results.
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hat was loaded to deal with
> a tape drive which is currently not in use. Not unused in the sense of
> useless, but in the sense of not currently active.
This is just a Really Pointless Idea. There are so many more useful and
interesting things to get done...
*sigh*
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> * Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000605 16:58] wrote:
> >
> > > Well, it would be nice to auto-load or unload any module that is needed.
> > > not just ethernet and fs types. That's basically the idea. Say, if you
> > > load a driver that uses so
ing about.
"Some resources?" Er, no offence, but you're not making any sense.
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So why introduce a third party? ("kerneld") If the admin wants to
remove a module, great.
TBH, unloading an idle module is basically a waste of time. Modules are,
on the whole, so small that the savings are entirely outweighed by the
unnecessary complexity.
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> [...]
> > This is, IMO, a good idea. I certainly don't want some smartass daemon
> > unloading a module just because it thinks it should. 8)
>
> You can always patch kldunload and have cron periodically execute a
> kldunload --unused-modul
o. There are a couple of cases
where pushing them in from the outside (ifconfig, usb, pccard) works, but
in each case these already have tools suited to the job.
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would FreeBSD qualify as a "PnP OS"? I mean, in my
> BIOS setup, would I answer "yes" or "no" to the question "PnP OS?". (Asus
> K7V, Award BIOS, if that makes a difference).
You would answer "no". FreeBSD doesn't perform resource alloc
work). If you have a pointer to this, the IA64
porting team would love to have it.
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ent machines. 8)
>
> I actually want it to be a joy, but for now it is a nightmare, unless I
> decide to do the real work from the device driver. Unfortunately, I
> haven't time enough to study all existing architectures and existing
> bridges variants.
> This let the expecte
that??
Either turn "PnP OS" off, or fix the card/system. The driver can't do
resource assignment like you're talking about.
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t;Linux". No thanks.
> >If you think that "memory mapped registers" are platform-portable, all I
> >can suggest is that you try playing with a few different platforms, and
> >preferably some time when you're prepared for a nasty shock.
>
> I said OS por
> At 06:36 PM 5/27/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> >> Existing bus abstractions tend to let think that the same software driver
> >> can deal with different buses, bridges or IO methods without having to
> >> care about how these things actually behave, notably regardi
uot;complex" controllers, this is entirely untrue;
newbus/busspace/busdma make the job a lot easier.
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complexity, but when working on a driver, I think we must not forget the
> reality of what actually happens inside the machine.
Just so. The real joy, of course, comes when you're trying to make a
drive behave "correctly" on a wide range of different machines. 8)
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and the only one that
most people care about already guarantees write ordering in hardware.
The example you're positing is basically a non-issue, with the exception
of operation re-ordering by the compiler (and for this see above).
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FreeBSD, and so far you're about the only curmudgeon that hasn't realised
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> Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> > A driver for the 3ware family of ATA RAID controllers is available for
> > FreeBSD-current at http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID
> >
> > This driver has all basic functionality, but no management at this time.
> >
> &g
STER; see sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c for examples.
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ave in there. I'll
> try ecc and pc100 individual and play with the settings, to see if I can
> find exactly what configuration is giving the problem.
If you're using 133MHz FSB CPUs, start there; see my reply to Ken.
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I've been using.
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with
and -current, although I don't use the SCSI interface very
often anymore.
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the power comes on before the
> battery has fully discharged..
The canonical way to do this is actually to shudown and reboot.
In the _startup_ phase, while the root filesystem is still mounted
readonly, you check the UPS status. At this point, you have access to
the disk in a read-only fashio
);
>
> This "offset of the pci mapping register" is quite confusing for me
> then.
Not at all; in the PCI context, that's what the rid is. As has been said
several times now, the meaning of the rid is _bus_specific_.
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code, needs to decide whether the interrupt is or is not shareable - not
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> how to get a physical address from a kernel virtual address (the KVA is
> obtained from contigmalloc() )
You don't. You probably need this for busmaster DMA; use the busdma
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d is a bus-specific uniqifier - it's not
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the code,
although you may well end up needing a copy of the 1284 spec. You might
also look at the linux code for inspiration.
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> On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:44:26PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > Is there any ECP code anywhere besides the /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus directory?
> > > I'm trying to trak down why ECP doesn't work undder 4.0. So, far, i can't
> > > find any significan
orted, and where is the ECP transfer
> actually handled?
It's in the ppc driver (sys/isa/ppc.c).
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Fleur at 3ware for her support in getting hardware for this
effort.
Comments, feedback, bug reports etc. will all be gratefully received.
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d still call
it...).
What's being proposed here sounds just slightly scary.
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What's the actual background behind this? The FBI wants to be able to
track down people using cellphones? I assume that it's all hidden behind
some "public safety" smokescreen, right?
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d I have no doubt at all about
that), 25m at near distance is probably not unrealistic.
Ask him if they can still do it at 35km out (the outer limit for a normal
GSM cell). That'd really spook me. 8)
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the phone is probably located; still pretty good when it comes to finding
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estion that it's actually the bootsector virus detector, I'm
going back to the K7V to give it another go. I'll lick this bastard yet!
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yboard, since nobody seemed
> interested in listening, to myself and others.
I'm certainly not interested in being insulted, no. You're welcome to
help work out what's really going on, since you're the one with the
symptoms, and until you decide to do so, nothing&
tting your build box out of my hair. 8(
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rs twice for some reason.
>
> BTW: Solaris-x86-beta does boot from floppy.
>
> Any hints? I'd really prefer not to go to (ehem) another operating system.
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there's only a
"documented hw.physmem" variable.
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tion provides a hint as to the actual size of
system memory (which will be tested before use).
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ifconfig command - so
> that once you define, for example, your ifconfig command and
> put it in your rc file, you just automatically bring things up
> the desired way. Any suggestions? (For FreeBSD 4.x)
Well, teaching kldload about module parameters would make it into 4.1, if
that's good
arguments, which, along with kernel environment
variables, can only be set by the loader.
(This is a bug; kldload should know how to set module arguments.)
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xamples in the amr and mlx
drivers easier to follow (maybe not, too). I forgot who I stole them
from though - probably Jonathan's ida code. This isn't your problem
though.
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base, you've got an interesting time
ahead of you with six separate regions; just hacking around this with
preprocessor macros isn't going to be terribly easy.
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to get different compiler warning
flags; the code you're trying to build isn't really valid C and you'll
have to work around this.
Please let us look at your module problems again, and poke me
specifically about it if you're not getting answers.
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tch to 100Mb/fdx at all times,
> and just force the BOOTP process to initialize the card at a 100Mb/fdx.
The 'dc' driver will pick up the settings from SRM, so just initialise
the SRM correctly to whatever you want.
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gt;system with either the working one would be used. I'll be
>working on this later on this evening and then try to roll
>another release. However, this would require a change to
>/usr/src/etc/usbd.conf if that is ok with everyone.
>
> Comments?
If there
context of the interrupt.
>
> I dug a bit and found some "software interrupt" functions (swi_*()),
> but they are just a list of functions to be
> called immediately (no deferral); they don't seem to be of help to
> me.
Try timeout(9)
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> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Mike Smith wrote:
> > Yeep. You don't know Fra Dolcini, do you? That looks like a Really
> > Unpleasant Undertaking. 8(
>
> It's getting there. Also SiS is now a supporter. Long term, we may see
> motherboards specifically designed for
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Mike Smith wrote:
> > Well, they're going to have the same basic stuff, and I can see that
> > they're not having much fun trying to get there.
>
> actually, "they" is "me": that's my project.
Yeep. You d
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