Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-12 Thread Rick C. Petty
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 09:14:53PM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Funny. But this isn't a bug disguised as a feature. It's a feature that you believe is a bug. I would call it a bug that you believe is a feature. Not just me, but freebsd developers including those who wrote devfs.

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
per...@pluto.rain.com writes: Rick C. Petty rick-freebsd2...@kiwi-computer.com writes: Funny. But this isn't a bug disguised as a feature. It's a feature that you believe is a bug. I would call it a bug that you believe is a feature. It is *by definition* a feature. The code works as

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-11 Thread Rick C. Petty
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:20:58AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Rick C. Petty rick-freebsd2...@kiwi-computer.com wrote: That's not how devfs works. It's actually a feature that devfs doesn't list everything ever possible http://storage9.myopera.com/freejerk/files/bug-feature.jpg

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-11 Thread perryh
Rick C. Petty rick-freebsd2...@kiwi-computer.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:20:58AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Rick C. Petty rick-freebsd2...@kiwi-computer.com wrote: That's not how devfs works. It's actually a feature that devfs doesn't list everything ever possible

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-10 Thread perryh
Ulrich Spoerlein gmail.com!uspoerl...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: On Thu, 08.01.2009 at 21:50:47 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Ulrich Spoerlein gmail.com!uspoerl...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: Ummm, out of curiosity, are your receiving your mail via UUCP? :)

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-10 Thread perryh
Rick C. Petty rick-freebsd2...@kiwi-computer.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:50:47PM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: In principle, everything that would be successfully created if open(2)'ed. It doesn't necessarily need to actually create them, but the results from readdir(2)

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-10 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
I cannot really comment on the devfs(4) design issues, and quite frankly it hasn't bothered my thus far. Just another little quirk you get to remember. On Sat, 10.01.2009 at 04:20:58 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: That the code faithfully adheres to the design does not guarantee that the

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-10 Thread perryh
Ulrich Spoerlein gmail.com!uspoerl...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: I cannot really comment on the devfs(4) design issues, and quite frankly it hasn't bothered my thus far. It evidently inconvenienced the OP. Just another little quirk you get to remember. If we followed that line of reasoning to

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-09 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Thu, 08.01.2009 at 21:50:47 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Ulrich Spoerlein gmail.com!uspoerl...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: Ummm, out of curiosity, are your receiving your mail via UUCP? :) Please run % cat /dev/sndstat % ls -l /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp0.0 The reason you are not seeing

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-09 Thread Rick C. Petty
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:50:47PM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: In principle, everything that would be successfully created if open(2)'ed. It doesn't necessarily need to actually create them, but the results from readdir(2) should be as if they had been created. The whole point of

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-08 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Thu, 08.01.2009 at 09:06:45 +0200, Vladimir Terziev wrote: Hi Matthias, i configured Ekiga and during the configuration process it didn't find any Audio device, so i think /dev/dsp* devices must be present, isn't it ? Please run % cat /dev/sndstat % ls -l /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp0.0 The

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-08 Thread Vladimir Terziev
Thank you very much Ulrich! After running ls -l /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp0.0 the devices are present and Ekiga has found them. The reasonable question is why Ekiga was not able to discover them without the hack you suggested. Regards, Vladimir On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 10:07 +0200, Ulrich Spoerlein

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-08 Thread Vladimir Terziev
Hi Matthias, the version of Ekiga i'm exploring is built from ports and it's ekiga-2.0.11_4 . Regards, Vladimir On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 10:31 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Thursday, January 08, 2009 a las 09:06:45AM +0200, Vladimir Terziev escribió: Hi Matthias, i configured

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-08 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 08, 2009 a las 09:06:45AM +0200, Vladimir Terziev escribió: Hi Matthias, i configured Ekiga and during the configuration process it didn't find any Audio device, so i think /dev/dsp* devices must be present, isn't it ? Regards, Vladimir Which version of

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-08 Thread perryh
Ulrich Spoerlein gmail.com!uspoerl...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: Please run % cat /dev/sndstat % ls -l /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp0.0 The reason you are not seeing them with 'ls /dev/dsp*' is because devfs is creating the nodes when they are open(2)'ed. Using shell globbing will search the output of

/dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-07 Thread Vladimir Terziev
Hi Hackers, i have a workstation equipped with Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller. The workstation is running FreeBSD 7.0 Release i386. I built a custom kernel and compiled the driver into it, using the following lines in the kernel configuration file: device sound device snd_hda

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, January 07, 2009 a las 06:52:31PM +0200, Vladimir Terziev escribió: ... device sound device snd_hda The driver seems to recognize the controller: $ dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller mem 0xe04c-0xe04c3fff irq 21 at

Re: /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* devices not present

2009-01-07 Thread Vladimir Terziev
Hi Matthias, i configured Ekiga and during the configuration process it didn't find any Audio device, so i think /dev/dsp* devices must be present, isn't it ? Regards, Vladimir On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 20:10 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, January 07, 2009 a las 06:52:31PM +0200,