Re: [eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:51:14AM -0800, Justin Lundy wrote: > Has similar work been done in FreeBSD been done? This would be a nice > feature in 5.0-CURRENT. We had SecureBSD, and the IBM port of propolice, > but both projects appear to be defunct at present. What happened to Propolice? The 4.x

Re: [eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-04 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Garance A Drosihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree that random offsets will not buy much in the way of > security, but it might make some kinds of initialization errors > more obvious. I'm thinking of the kind of errors where a routine > forgets to initialize a key variable, but everythin

Re: [eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-04 Thread Terry Lambert
Justin Lundy wrote: > "Add a possibility to add a random offset to the stack on exec. This makes > it slightly harder to write generic buffer overflows. This doesn't really > give any real security, but it raises the bar for script-kiddies and it's > really cheap. It's also security through obscur

Re: [eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-04 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:51:14AM -0800, Justin Lundy wrote: > Has similar work been done in FreeBSD been done? This would be a nice > feature in 5.0-CURRENT. We had SecureBSD, and the IBM port of propolice, > but both projects appear to be defunct at present. If we can integrate > MAC into the ke

Re: [eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-04 Thread Tim Kientzle
Justin Lundy wrote: "Add a possibility to add a random offset to the stack on exec. This makes it slightly harder to write generic buffer overflows. This doesn't really give any real security, but it raises the bar for script-kiddies and it's really cheap. This idea can also be used within app

[eugene@securityarchitects.com: Re: Preventing exploitation with rebasing]

2003-02-04 Thread Justin Lundy
Has similar work been done in FreeBSD been done? This would be a nice feature in 5.0-CURRENT. We had SecureBSD, and the IBM port of propolice, but both projects appear to be defunct at present. If we can integrate MAC into the kernel, why not port over OpenBSD's rebasing implementation from /src/s