On 29-Jul-2004 William Kirkland wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to
make kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in
ports) for the kernel,
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on some of the
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Allan Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:21:10PM -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
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: What's wrong with adding:
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: makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE=a b c
: to your config file? It is already supported.
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Jake Hamby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
: On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
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: I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
: up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in
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M. Warner Losh wrote:
What's wrong with adding:
makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE=a b c
to your config file? It is already supported.
Nothing, I just didn't know about it! Thanks to all who replied with
the answer...
-Jake
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:21:10PM -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
M. Warner Losh wrote:
What's wrong with adding:
makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE=a b c
to your config file? It is already supported.
Though, I've used this before to good effect (on slow crash-box):
There's no mention to specify
Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in
solutions, not suggestions.
Agreed. And the original proponent of the idea was me. I just wanted
On Fri, 2004-Jul-23 20:50:01 -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
My biggest annoyance with building the kernel, compared to Linux, is
that it insists on building all of the possible kernel modules, even
though I only want to build the ones that make sense for my hardware.
I think you want the following:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 02:52:07PM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
I wholly disagree. I think using an excuse ``people will let everything
else do the work for them and nobody will ever learn'' to discourage the
development of automation tools is very poor. Try applying that argument
to any
On 21-Jul-2004 M. Warner Losh wrote:
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Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: As an initial starting point for 'preloading' any menubased kernel
: configurator, could the file /var/run/dmesg.boot be usefully parsed
: as
: a list of 'this is what is
On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in
solutions, not suggestions.
Agreed. And the original proponent of the idea was me. I just wanted
to see if there was
You confuse automation, with simplification.
Automation tools are good for frequently re-run tasks.
How often do you recompile your kernel?
exactly.
In my opinion, the least we could do is have it as a port/package. For the
make check dependencies, that could be a great idea to commit
major:minor numbers and the rules / options
pertaining thereto,
- and finally how to return data and driver status.
Fun.
mjt
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 06:41, Bruce R. Montague wrote:
Hi, re, Next Generation kernel configuration:
Years ago I had a job for a few years where I
constantly
The debate here is automation vs. simplification. Why we shouldn't
simplificate the kernel compile ? Because our user base's average IQ will
be lower ? We're not suggesting to have KDE installed by default here.
Users would still to have to type the commands to compile the kernel by
hand and
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:39:31 -0500 (CDT)
Conrad J. Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to
make kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in
ports) for the kernel, similar to what's
Hi, re rule-based configuration Chris Pressey noted:
That's the easy part. The hard part is discovering the dependencies.
My impression is that almost all rule-based expert
systems of sufficient complexity that deal with a
dynamic field have failed because of this, that is,
due to the
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 11:53, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
On 21-Jul-2004 Max Laier wrote:
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
[snip]
A dependable tool offering a menu-driven means of configuring the
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on some of the
Avleen Vig wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:45AM -0700, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in
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On Wednesday 21 July 2004 01:00 pm, Andrew Konstantinov wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:45AM -0700, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking
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Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: As an initial starting point for 'preloading' any menubased kernel
: configurator, could the file /var/run/dmesg.boot be usefully parsed as
: a list of 'this is what is actually installed in this box, what else do
Hi, re, Next Generation kernel configuration:
Years ago I had a job for a few years where I
constantly built RSX-11 systems on PDP-11s. RSX-11
was always built from source and had a couple of
hundred build-time options, many hardware build
dependencies, and supported numerous other dynamic
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on some of the Linux distros.
Ideally, such a tool would be capable of automatically
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on some of the
On 21-Jul-2004 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
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Has this ever come up for discussion before? Now that we have rcNG,
with its explicit declarations of dependencies, has any thought been
given to doing something similar with kernel configuration files?
Something still human-readable, yet
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a make config (as in ports)
On 21-Jul-2004 Brooks Davis wrote:
You can have my simple flat file kernel config when you pry it from
my cold, dead hands and I know a number of other develoeprs share
this viewpoint. All my experiences with the linux visual kernel
config tool have been annoying and I've got friends with
On 21-Jul-2004 Max Laier wrote:
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
[snip]
A dependable tool offering a menu-driven means of configuring the
kernel, ensuring proper config file syntax, dependency handling,
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