Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, July 18, 2011 3:40:19 am Doug Barton wrote: On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote: What release are you running? Recent HEAD I upgraded my desktop at home to HEAD yesterday and tested this via a 'boot kernel.GENERIC' at the loader prompt and it did the same as the previous

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote: What release are you running? Recent HEAD -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :)

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' Hmmm... The last change to the FICL word boot was 10 years, 9 months ago, by dcs in version 1.19 of sys/boot/forth/loader.4th.

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
Hi Doug, On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be replaced by

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700,

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30,

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 29, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: My main idea is that the present Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 is a very good menu . Instead of destroying its elegant structure , the already available FreeBSD Boot Loader ( actually Kernel selection ) menu

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels Eh? Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: set kernel=kernel.old boot IMHO, it shows that you can tell the loader about kernels. Having a kernel-choice sub-menu would be

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels Eh?  Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: set kernel=kernel.old boot IMHO, it shows that you can

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a Boot kernel.old menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads everithing from /boot/kernel.old? Its difficult to handle manually in the loader (esp. handling

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a Boot kernel.old menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Devin Teske
On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising!

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-13 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Devin Teske [mailto:dte...@vicor.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:22 PM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: '兰清'; 'Alexander Leidinger'; 'Dieter BSD'; Teske, Devin (devin.te...@fisglobal.com); Julian Elischer (jelisc...@fusionio.com); 'Warner Losh'

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-08 Thread Dieter BSD
There's really only room for one or two more menu items. Perhaps some items could be moved to a 2nd level menu? 1) boot multiuser mode ( default ) 2) boot single user mode 3) menu to set boot options 4) help Would be nice: a fix for having to lean on a key autorepeating for a couple seconds.

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-04 Thread Devin Teske
On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-03 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:55:12 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
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Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
[ attempt #2 - grumble - sorry about the blank message, hope it works this time - grumble- ] I hope that works for serial console.  VT100 may be a reasonable default in that case, but it would be good to make sure that menu works even on a dumb terminal. Perhaps we should put 'key' letter in

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dieter BSD Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:28 PM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu [ attempt #2 - grumble - sorry about

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in /boot/loader.conf Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) Putting brackets around letters (and numbers) sounds good. If there is room, perhaps add

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the FICL words available, but I don't recall if there was a way to crawl the object space of the items

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in /boot/loader.conf Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) The current behavior -- with what's in

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the FICL words available, but I don't

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warner Losh
Why not both? duck Warner On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosity or steps. I really appreciated the clean install via binary package. Well done. Only question I have is whether it's possible to use the Beastie ASCII image instead of the pointy-eared blob? The beastie.4th file is still present

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:08 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosity or steps. I really

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] I'd like to revisit the numbers vs. letters for menu options. IIRC (and I may not), an earlier version used letters for the menu options, and

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:24 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com a écrit : -Original Message- From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Very nice and functional, without

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Olivier SMEDTS [mailto:oliv...@gid0.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:09 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: Freddie Cash; FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com a écrit : -Original

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I was thinking that what we ought to do is support *both* numbers *and* letters. Sounds good to me. I envision the menuitem numbers remaining unchanged (1-7), allowing those familiar with the numbers to use them.

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. ___

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. Agreed, that's a much more

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Artem Belevich
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) Here's the download:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Eitan Adler
I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) Here's the download: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/loader_menu-1.0.tgz Painless installation - thanks! And upon your