Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-30 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I remember from reading the Lyons' book, there were 16 mapping descriptors for text and data each. I think, 1/16 of the address space is not too big, and in absolute values it's the size of today's pages (4KB). well I had dropped this

RE: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-30 Thread DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1)
Once again Unix actually used this, the DEC OSes did not, so Unix was the first to find the bugs in this hardware too. I think the first sentence is not true. The RT-11 XM monitor uses the MMU hardware intensively even before Unix came to utilize it. I'm not talking about RSX-11, RSTS-E and

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-29 Thread Andrew Boothman
Ronald G Minnich wrote: where'd they get this? that's an odd statement. Shared memory was used all the time on Unix on -11s, that's the whole point of the shared text a.out format. Of course shared read-only text is not exactly the standard shared memory, but at the same time it shows

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-29 Thread babkin
Justin C.Walker wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 05:10 PM, Greg Shenaut wrote: I'd guess that the point deals with the use of shared memory between processes for the purposes of sharing data. Given the granularity of the PDP-11 VM hardware, it seemed like a bad tradeoff, and

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Andrew Boothman wrote: ... appendices is all about FreeBSD and its internals. It's 48 pages long and is available from http://www.wiley.com/college/silberschatz6e/0471417432/pdf/bsd.pdf I like it. The dinosaur book has been a clasic forever. The appendix

RE: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1)
I've took a brief look on Unix presentation and was wondering, why author says that ...most Unix systems have not permitted shared memory because the PDP-11 hardware did not encourage it...? Well, it wasn't so obvious deal with PDP-11 MMU, but why you have to tell to your students about it

RE: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1) wrote: I've took a brief look on Unix presentation and was wondering, why author says that ...most Unix systems have not permitted shared memory because the PDP-11 hardware did not encourage it...? where'd they get this? that's an odd

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread Justin C . Walker
On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 02:49 PM, Ronald G Minnich wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1) wrote: I've took a brief look on Unix presentation and was wondering, why author says that ...most Unix systems have not permitted shared memory because the PDP-11

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread Greg Shenaut
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Justin C.Walker cleopede: I've took a brief look on Unix presentation and was wondering, why author says that ...most Unix systems have not permitted shared memory because the PDP-11 hardware did not encourage it...? where'd they get this? that's an odd

Re: OS Textbook FreeBSD Appendix

2002-01-28 Thread Justin C . Walker
On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 05:10 PM, Greg Shenaut wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Justin C.Walker cleopede: I've took a brief look on Unix presentation and was wondering, why author says that ...most Unix systems have not permitted shared memory because the PDP-11 hardware did