Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-13 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 11:15:12AM -0700, Parag Patel wrote: Growing up programming on a KL-10, I still think the correct place for line-editing is in the driver. Hell - it's already doing basic erase/kill line editing as it is. Then you don't have to hack every command-line app to get

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-13 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 11:15:12AM -0700, Parag Patel wrote: Growing up programming on a KL-10, I still think the correct place for line-editing is in the driver. Hell - it's already doing basic erase/kill line editing as it is. Then you don't have to hack every command-line app to get

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-13 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 11:15:12AM -0700, Parag Patel wrote: Growing up programming on a KL-10, I still think the correct place for line-editing is in the driver. Hell - it's already doing basic erase/kill line editing as it is. Then you don't have to hack every command-line app to

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout - destroy permanent connection, ncplist

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 06:29:57PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as ports/net/nw-utils. An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) Forgive me my ignorance, but I'd like a quick response: what about multiple

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 05:24:00PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) All

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_n wfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the r est of it

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Yes, that's acceptable. But mount_nwfs require libncp.so and this means that ncp library sources will be also required. So KLD, mount_nwfs and libncp should go into source tree and other utilities can be a port. Other thoughts ? I'm

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Boris Popov wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? ncpurge - purge specified salvagable files, From a user perspective, is

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? I'm working on this (currently only queries). NDS

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:08:40 +0930, "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) Yow! I had no idea it was so large! I have an (as yet

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Parag Patel wrote: I have an (as yet still incomplete) full-screen text-editor library I wrote a long time ago - in C++ even - that supports (on a terminal using termlib but not curses) full-screen editing, simultaneous "live" multiple overlapping windows/views of

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:07:12 EDT, "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Gaah - another big line-editing library! My editor's even smaller than libedit!

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Gnu Also /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Perl,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel O'Connor" writes: : Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the : kernel bits in the tree. Since all this stuff depends on being in sync, : the only reasonable way to do this is to put it in the tree. : : Why? What kernel code

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kevin Doherty
And thus spake Matthew N. Dodd, on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Kevin? :) Bleah, one thing at a time :) Once I finish with my

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the tree the same as the Netware client stuff. Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba because of the licensing though - it already does quite a good job at SMB serving, it seems a waste to duplicate the effort instead

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout - destroy permanent connection, ncplist

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 06:29:57PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as ports/net/nw-utils. An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 04:58:52PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) Forgive me my ignorance, but I'd like a quick response: what about multiple

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 05:24:00PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) All

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_n wfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the r est of it

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Yes, that's acceptable. But mount_nwfs require libncp.so and this means that ncp library sources will be also required. So KLD, mount_nwfs and libncp should go into source tree and other utilities can be a port. Other thoughts ? I'm

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Boris Popov wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? ncpurge - purge specified salvagable files,

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? I'm working on this (currently only queries). NDS

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Why? What kernel code does this need? The ncpfs kernel code for one. We're talking about less than 500k of code here. You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) If

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:08:40 +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) Yow! I had no idea it was so large! I have an (as yet still

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Parag Patel wrote: I have an (as yet still incomplete) full-screen text-editor library I wrote a long time ago - in C++ even - that supports (on a terminal using termlib but not curses) full-screen editing, simultaneous live multiple overlapping windows/views of buffers,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:07:12 EDT, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Gaah - another big line-editing library! My editor's even smaller than libedit! text

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Gnu Also /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Perl, which

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message 37d93d65.627a...@dons.net.au Daniel O'Connor writes: : Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the : kernel bits in the tree. Since all this stuff depends on being in sync, : the only reasonable way to do this is to put it in the tree. : : Why? What kernel

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kevin Doherty
And thus spake Matthew N. Dodd, on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Kevin? :) Bleah, one thing at a time :) Once I finish with my

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as ports/net/nw-utils. I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the tree the same as the Netware client stuff. Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba because of the licensing though - it already does quite a good job at SMB serving, it seems a waste to duplicate the effort instead