Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-04 Thread der Mouse
To: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [off-list] Ugh. My apologies to everyone involved. I'll go crawl back in my hole now /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ /

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-04 Thread Terry Lambert
der Mouse wrote: [off-list] Uh, no it wasn't. Do you want a reply? On list or off? 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-04 Thread Sean Davis
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:48PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: snip This is actually incorrect. At one point in time, the email address of the driver authors was printed out in boot messsages, under Linux. They had a flag day in which Linus removed all the printf's. This flag day was

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-04 Thread Terry Lambert
Sean Davis wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:48PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: snip This is actually incorrect. At one point in time, the email address of the driver authors was printed out in boot messsages, under Linux. They had a flag day in which Linus removed all the printf's.

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-03 Thread John-David Childs
4. Any chance of merging the very best part of each kernel? 5. Or is it possible to do so? No, I don't forsee merging. der Mouse pointed out the GPL issue, which is one where I think the BSD and Linux folks will just agree to disagree. Besides some big issues of ideology, there is

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-03 Thread der Mouse
[...the whole thread re BSD vs Linux...] [...] Eventually, the die-hards will die hard, and the lack of new competent BSD hackers will seal the coffin...the BSD sysadmin will be sent packing I've seen it said that ego will be the death of BSD. The more I see of BSD the more I believe it.

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-03 Thread Terry Lambert
der Mouse wrote: In most respects I don't care much for the GPL, but this is one of the really good effects it has: it keeps people from using you gotta splash my name all over everything licenses on their stuff. I just looked at the INSTALL.txt file from the most recent NetBSD/sparc release

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-02-03 Thread der Mouse
[off-list] If Copyright law were to acknowledge the existance of Public Domain, by providing liability protection for authors whose code was used by third parties, resulting in damages, then almost every BSD developer I'm aware of wuld release their code as public domain, instead. How does

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-01-24 22:56, Mike Bristow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Reply-To set to me: This is probably off topic for all of the lists: all of the ones I read, anyway. ] On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:03:53AM -0800, Bill Studenmund wrote: 2. How does it differ? What are the technical reasoning

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Steve Kudlak
Josef El-Rayes wrote: Dear Arief, as you can see your questions are not very welcome on the mailinglists, therefore i advice you to have a look at this book if you are interested in BSD's technical background Title: The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System Authors:

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Paul Halliday
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Steve Kudlak wrote: If one really wanted to have fun, and I have thought of this. A triple boot system would be the real way to find out the differences and compare the *BSD, Linux and the Windows Universes. What a unique idea.

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Steve Kudlak
Paul Halliday wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Steve Kudlak wrote: If one really wanted to have fun, and I have thought of this. A triple boot system would be the real way to find out the differences and compare the *BSD, Linux and the Windows Universes. What a unique idea.

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Josef El-Rayes
Dear Arief, as you can see your questions are not very welcome on the mailinglists, therefore i advice you to have a look at this book if you are interested in BSD's technical background Title: The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System Authors: McKusick, Bostic, Karels and

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Rik van Riel
[follow-ups to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please] On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Josef El-Rayes wrote: as you can see your questions are not very welcome on the mailinglists, therefore i advice you to have a look at this book if you are interested in BSD's technical background There is one mailing list where

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, arief_mulya wrote: Dear all, I Apologize, If this thread has existed before, and so if this is very offtopic and tiredsome for most of you here. I'm a newbie, and just about to get my feet wet into the kernel-code, been using (GNU/)Linux (or whatever the name is, I

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Peter Wemm
[dropped linux-kernel] Bill Studenmund wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, arief_mulya wrote: 4. Any chance of merging the very best part of each kernel? 5. Or is it possible to do so? No, I don't forsee merging. der Mouse pointed out the GPL issue, which is one where I think the BSD and Linux

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Terry Lambert
Steve Kudlak wrote: Like speaking of technical things has anyone brought up a raytrace/rendering or other fancy computer graphics system under FreeBSD? Yes. Manex Visual Effects did. Perhaps you've heard of the movie The Matrix, whose computer graphics were rendered on FreeBSD systems? --

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-24 Thread Mike Bristow
[ Reply-To set to me: This is probably off topic for all of the lists: all of the ones I read, anyway. ] On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:03:53AM -0800, Bill Studenmund wrote: 2. How does it differ? What are the technical reasoning behind the decisions? They differ in most technical areas.

Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-23 Thread arief_mulya
Dear all, I Apologize, If this thread has existed before, and so if this is very offtopic and tiredsome for most of you here. I'm a newbie, and just about to get my feet wet into the kernel-code, been using (GNU/)Linux (or whatever the name is, I personally don't really care, I caremost at the

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Dear Arief, I Apologize, If this thread has existed before, and so if this is very offtopic and tiredsome for most of you here. I'm a newbie, and just about to get my feet wet into the world, been living in (ASIA/)Indonesia (or whatever the name is, I personally don't really care, I caremost at

Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux

2003-01-23 Thread Greg Black
arief_mulya wrote: | I Apologize, If this thread has existed before, and so if | this is very offtopic and tiredsome for most of you here. Have you considered Windows? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message