Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-12 Thread Joel Wood
Aha, that makes sense... But then, I suppose, one needs some IDE-CF converting device... Would you point me to the resources 'bout them? We use a cf - ide adapter from adtron. Its not the cheapest out there, but it fits in 3 1/2 drive bay, and offers access to the card from outside the

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-07 Thread Paul Armstrong
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 06:06:26AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major : question: where to boot from? especially in the case of standalone

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-07 Thread randall ehren
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 06:06:26AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major : question: where to boot from? especially in the case of

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: MWL : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest MWL : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and MWL : mounting the partitions read-only? MWL MWL It is usually the case that solid-state media, properly

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Terry Lambert
M. Warner Losh wrote: : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and : mounting the partitions read-only? [ ... ] I'd suspect that cdrom drives will break more often than hard disks in harsh environments.

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 12:12:55AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: : I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, : well longs story, the shot version is it

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:13:33PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: MWL : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest MWL : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and MWL : mounting the partitions read-only?

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many WB _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major WB question: where to boot from? especially in the case of standalone WB moving-parts-free

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:27:58PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many WB _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major WB question: where

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dmitry Morozovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major : question: where to boot from? especially in the

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:27:58PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: WB On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB WB WB Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many WB WB _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: Aha, that makes sense... But then, I suppose, one needs some IDE-CF converting device... Would you point me to the resources 'bout them? http://www.mesanet.com http://siliconkit.dnsalias.com/cart The CF-to-IDE adapters are really cheap, $20 or

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
At 03/01/2003, you wrote: Unfortunately freeSBIE seems to require buildworld. I'm not sure if they have a downloadable version. Try here: http://www.sm.freebsd.org/it/gufi/freesbie/ It is not the last version but it is an ISO :-) You can get the last iso from the slow, adsl link in the main

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Joe
Thanks, but I have a cd up and running now with dns. The iso at freeSBIE seems to be more to run X or something. I just want to have the machine do 4 things caching nameserver(does it), ssh from localnet to box, and natd router(does this too), console access. At this point it does all but

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). CD-ROM is not

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: : I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, : well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be : turned off and on like a lite switch. (I

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-03 Thread Marco Molteni
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. [..] As somebody else already mentioned, try www.freesbie.org. It is based on another project that seems stalled, livecd. Works fine, the development team is italian but we do understand

freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
Hello, I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). When I release this box it will have no

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:03:50PM -0800, Joe wrote: Without building the entire FreeBSD distro how do I make my own boot.flp file and what goes on it? See if this article can help you: Building a CD Bootable Firewall http://www.bsdtoday.com/2002/March/Features646.html -- Craig Rodrigues

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Joe wrote: I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). When I release

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
Thanks, but that was actually one of the articles I had already read. It suggests taking the boot.flp image from 4.4-RELEASE and just using your own boot0, loader.4th and kernel.gz. When I did that I ended up with the system booting, but it complained about a missing something(I cannot

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Matthew Saunders
through the script the author writes, it mentions the creation of a loader.rc file. I'm hoping this will work. Good luck, matt - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: freebsd running on a cdrom Hello

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: freebsd running on a cdrom Hello, I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part will take