Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 6 00:41:54 2001 Joerg Schilling writes: . STAR Option Description Gnu tar equiv. Remarks === === = ===

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-06 Thread .
Joerg Schilling writes: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 6 00:41:54 2001 Joerg Schilling writes: . STAR OptionDescription Gnu tar equiv. Remarks ======

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 3 20:27:24 2001 On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:07:03PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: - An idiosyncratic build system. This is really funny Please don't waste time on this issue. I can bmake and shoe-horn anything into our build system. Right, this is

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-05 Thread .
Joerg Schilling writes: . STAR Option Description Gnu tar equiv. Remarks === === = === . file=nm,f=nm use 'nm' as tape instead

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 6 00:41:54 2001 . STAR Option Description Gnu tar equiv. Remarks === === = === . file=nm,f=nm use

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-12-03 Thread Jason Andresen
Jim Bryant wrote: fergus wrote: - It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people probably don't want to lose. I dunno... The entire incremental thing in tar is dependant on NOT using compression,

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-12-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:50:00PM -0500, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote: - It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people probably don't want to lose. It's

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-12-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:07:03PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: - An idiosyncratic build system. This is really funny Please don't waste time on this issue. I can bmake and shoe-horn anything into our build system. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-12-03 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:50:00PM -0500, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote: - It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-12-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:12:28PM -0500, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: I should think it would be pretty straightforward seeing as there is already a port which has taken care of any potential build problems. Why do you think that?? The port builds using gmake and autoconf. Any

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-12-03 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, David O'Brien wrote: Why do you think that?? The port builds using gmake and autoconf. Any in-FreeBSD-tree bits build with Bmake and w/o autoconf. Also the port has none of the FreeBSD specific changes. If the ports was in the perfect shape, why do you think the in-tree

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Harti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken. Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems: - A

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-29 Thread fergus
Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken. Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems: - A highly idiosyncratic command

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-11-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: fergus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken. Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems: - A

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-11-29 Thread Nate Williams
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling _may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead of keeping a real tar? Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was created. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-11-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 29 21:11:16 2001 Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling _may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead of keeping a real tar? Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was created. Well

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-11-29 Thread Nate Williams
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling _may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead of keeping a real tar? Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was created. Well this is from BSD-4.3: [ SNIP ] ... And it

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-29 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote: - It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people probably don't want to lose. It's a feature that is essential that FreeBSD doesn't lose IMO. Those of us who

Re: tar and nodump flag (fwd)

2001-11-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 29 21:25:58 2001 Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling _may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead of keeping a real tar? Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was created.

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-29 Thread Jim Bryant
fergus wrote: - It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people probably don't want to lose. I dunno... The entire incremental thing in tar is dependant on NOT using compression, which IMHO makes it pretty

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-27 Thread Walter C. Pelissero
David O'Brien writes: On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:18:42PM +, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: How about adding the nodump flag processing in tar? This would be a *bad* idea. It would diverge our tar even more than it already is -- which is so bad it isn't trival to update

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-27 Thread Harti Brandt
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: WCPDavid O'Brien writes: WCP On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:18:42PM +, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: WCP How about adding the nodump flag processing in tar? WCP WCP This would be a *bad* idea. It would diverge our tar even more WCP than

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 01:30:25PM +, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: Does it mean we can't modify the BSD tar because it's already too different from the GNU tar, but at the same time we don't upgrade to the new GNU tar because it might require too much work adapting the old mods to the new

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:45:38PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote: Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken. Star is GLP'ed software. Thus

Re: tar and nodump flag

2001-11-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:18:42PM +, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: How about adding the nodump flag processing in tar? This would be a *bad* idea. It would diverge our tar even more than it already is -- which is so bad it isn't trival to update to the latest version (ours is many years

tar and nodump flag

2001-11-21 Thread Walter C. Pelissero
How about adding the nodump flag processing in tar? Something like: --- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/tar/create.c Wed Aug 11 09:03:39 1999 +++ create.cWed Nov 21 13:52:54 2001 @@ -817,6 +817,8 @@ strcpy (namebuf + len, d-d_name); if (f_exclude check_exclude (namebuf