Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nikolai Saoukh
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 02:29:55PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: The whole purpose of unknown is to CONSUME the resources that others might try to use. This can't easily be done in the base bus w/o it actually consuming them. Maybe we need a flag that means "I'm a pseudo device that was

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nick Hibma
: The issue is pretty hairy and for now I think the solution is to make : any stub use DEVICE_NOMATCH (see pci.c), which does not attach a driver : to a device, just mentions it during boot. And during every reprobe after that... :-(. I'm currently working on a pci card driver and the vga

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nick Hibma
In theory, if one matches with a -1 or smaller rather than 0, then it will be detached on reprobe. Isn't that the case? On -newbus this issue has come up and the conclusion was that there is always some problem rearing its ugly head. On loading a new driver you would have to run a

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nick Hibma
H. This work was on a 4.0-RELEASE system Makes sense. Right, that has not backported yet. I'll do that ASAP (this evening), including the patch where nextunit is no longer used. BTW, I have a hack to subr_bus that prints detach messages when a device is detached. This will hoist

FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread Jim Mercer
i've got a server that has the sole purpose of routing packters between 4 100mbit interfaces. the server is running 3.4-stable. it has 128M RAM, and according to top, it isn't using much more than 80M. i'm using zebra to do full BGP routing with 2 peers. netstat -rn shows some 75,000 routes.

Re: FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread Tony Finch
Jim Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i increase the amount of RAM for the kernel? http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hackers.html#AEN4204 i thought NMBCLUSTERS was the one, but i guess not. That's just for network buffers. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 342

Re: Warning: Object directory not changed from original

2000-04-03 Thread Joe Loughry
Thank you! "make obj" solved the problem. I was pulling my hair out. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 03:06:27PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: Jim Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i increase the amount of RAM for the kernel? http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hackers.html#AEN4204 geez, that one looks a bit scary. since 4.x has 1GB of address space, would moving from 3.4

RE: FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread Koster, K.J.
Dear Hackers, From the original post I understood that the problem is that not all physical RAM is detected. Is FreeBSD seeing all oof the 128 MB's, or only 80 MB's? Kees Jan == You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your

Re: FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 04:18:37PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: From the original post I understood that the problem is that not all physical RAM is detected. Is FreeBSD seeing all oof the 128 MB's, or only 80 MB's? i think it is seeing all of it: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #4: Mon Apr 3 01:25:50 EDT

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nikolai Saoukh writes: : I do not like the idea of resource consumation. Is there a : description of the problems which might arose without it? Machine deadlock, undetected irq conflict causing misbehavior, probing hardware for device foo and locking the machine

82559ER and fxp driver

2000-04-03 Thread Bruce Bauman
Has anyone had success with FreeBSD 4.x and the fxp driver when used with an Intel 82559ER chip? I believe this chip is the same as a normal 82559 but with some of the management functions removed. The device ID is different so the current driver doesn't recognize it, but if I modify the code to

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nikolai Saoukh
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 08:30:08AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : I do not like the idea of resource consumation. Is there a : description of the problems which might arose without it? Machine deadlock, undetected irq conflict causing misbehavior, probing hardware for device foo and locking

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nikolai Saoukh writes: : On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 08:30:08AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : : : I do not like the idea of resource consumation. Is there a : : description of the problems which might arose without it? : : Machine deadlock, undetected irq conflict

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Nikolai Saoukh
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 09:11:10AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: You can't always disable PNP devices. More accurately, the devices reported by PNPBIOS are defined to be hard wired and always active. You cannot turn them off or relocate their resources. They likely should be probed first

Re: Reserving Resources

2000-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nikolai Saoukh writes: : create a automagic device 'known' and attach all known devices from PNPBIOS : to it. Now _all_ pnp devices got their resources (even if there : is no driver for it) and attached to 'unknown' driver. Any kldloaded : driver later does not see

Re: GDB 5

2000-04-03 Thread Marco van de Voort
The reason is that the patches against 4.18 you guys use were never assigned to the FSF. Or so, that's the reason i was given when i asked the head maintainer. I'm not here to get into any fights. I just maintain C++ support for GDB, and use FreeBSD as my secondary platform, and my main gdb

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread Eugene M. Kim
On 2 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: | I also think the creating of a freebsd-i18n list is long overdue. | I18N issues are largely lost among the traffic on -hackers and | -questions, and it has become something of a specialty area since | most people appear to be served well by the

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 11:37 03-04-2000 -0700, Eugene M. Kim wrote: On 2 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: | I also think the creating of a freebsd-i18n list is long overdue. | I18N issues are largely lost among the traffic on -hackers and | -questions, and it has become something of a specialty area since |

ProcFS

2000-04-03 Thread visi0n
I was thinking how normal programs get info about cpu and memory utilization in bsd's systems, (maybe sysctl ?). === visi0n AUX Technologies [www.aux-tech.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ProcFS

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Bacarella
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, visi0n wrote: I was thinking how normal programs get info about cpu and memory utilization in bsd's systems, (maybe sysctl ?). In the olden days, you used to have to read kernel data structures through /dev/mem (or friends(?)). This usually means that you have to

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread Eugene M. Kim
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: | On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 11:37:22AM -0700, Eugene M. Kim wrote: | On 2 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: | | I also think the creating of a freebsd-i18n list is long overdue. | | I18N issues are largely lost among the traffic on -hackers and | |

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread Nik Clayton
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 11:37:22AM -0700, Eugene M. Kim wrote: On 2 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: | I also think the creating of a freebsd-i18n list is long overdue. | I18N issues are largely lost among the traffic on -hackers and | -questions, and it has become something of a

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread Alex Belits
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, MikeM wrote: Has anyone thought of Unicode support on FreeBSD? Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from having Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8) support. It isn't me for sure -- I am Russian. -- Alex

Re: FBSD-3.4, full bgp routing, maxusers, NMBCLUSTERS

2000-04-03 Thread vova
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Jim Mercer wrote: i've got a server that has the sole purpose of routing packters between 4 100mbit interfaces. the server is running 3.4-stable. it has 128M RAM, and according to top, it isn't using much more than 80M. i'm using zebra to do full BGP routing with 2

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 15:23 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, MikeM wrote: Has anyone thought of Unicode support on FreeBSD? Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from having Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8) support. It isn't me for sure Everyone who works

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread Alex Belits
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from having Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8) support. It isn't me for sure Everyone who works with multilingual documents. I feel perfectly fine with "multilingual" documents

Re: Unicode on FreeBSD

2000-04-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 20:59 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote: I feel perfectly fine with "multilingual" documents that contain English and Russian text without Unicode. Those are bilingual, not multilingual. I once had to create a document in English, Slovak, and Sanskrit (using Devanagari alphabet). There is

Re: 82559ER and fxp driver

2000-04-03 Thread Peter Wemm
Bruce Bauman wrote: Has anyone had success with FreeBSD 4.x and the fxp driver when used with an Intel 82559ER chip? I believe this chip is the same as a normal 82559 but with some of the management functions removed. The device ID is different so the current driver doesn't recognize it,