Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Black writes: Matt Dillon wrote: And, I would say, that for any mailer creating and deleting files in a spool directory at a high rate, *ONLY* a filesystem with softupdates turned on or a journaling filesystem such as XFS or ReiserFS can be

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2001-02-07 Thread Dmitry Dicky
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Re: Interesting Java problem

2001-02-07 Thread Rasputin
* Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 07:31]: I'm fooling around with java and have installed the linux port of java 1.3 on a 4.2-STABLE system (last cvsuped and make world on Jan 30). I'm running a very simple java program ; It compiles cleanly but when I run it I get ; erie% java

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2001-02-07 Thread Dmitry Dicky
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Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Maxime Henrion
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Black writes: Matt Dillon wrote: It seems to me that you're saying that softupdates is now the recommended way to go -- so why does 4.2-Release still have the dire warnings in /sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates? Is that file

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Tony Finch
Andre Oppermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qmail has a couple of directories for the different states a queued message goes through. The whole queue structure is required to be on the same partition/disk. After the completing of each step in the queue it is moved through the use of link() and then

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Black
Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename already existing? Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making suggestions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maxime Henrion writes: What do you think of what NetBSD implemented ? softupdates is now enabled via a mount option. This seems cleaner than the tunefs -n enable thing. I have never understood why it was a tunefs thing... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since

Re: Really odd BTX halted problem booting - PXE/diskless

2001-02-07 Thread Paul Saab
It its the bios disk probe that is causing the machine to fault. I suppose you really dont need to probe the disks when you are netbooting. Danny Braniss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: im now being bitten by this one, but with a twist: on a compaq deskpro workstation it's ok on a dell-precision

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maxime Henrion writes: What do you think of what NetBSD implemented ? softupdates is now enabled vi a a mount option. This seems cleaner than the tunefs -n enable thing. I have never understood why it was a tunefs thing... So

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Wemm writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maxime Henrion writes: What do you think of what NetBSD implemented ? softupdates is now enabled vi a a mount option. This seems cleaner than the tunefs -n enable thing. I have

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread mouss
At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename already existing? Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making suggestions? I find nothing convincing in the manpage. Could you please tell what I am

Re: unsubscribe

2001-02-07 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:48:26PM -0500, Ed Gold wrote: To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message This would work better if you actually read the mails you're receiving, and send the update request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not

Re: unsubscribe freebsd-hackers

2001-02-07 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:43:00PM +0300, Dmitry Dicky wrote: unsubscribe freebsd-hackers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message This would work better if you actually read the mails you are receiving, and send the

Re: echo request deny

2001-02-07 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, milunovic wrote: Is there anyway to deny echo request on FreeBSD (except ipfw add deny icmp from any to any) ? On Linux It was simple,just echo 1/proc/.../icmp_echo_request If you just want to block echo_requests and don't want to block any other ICMP

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Luckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have written a KLD module that implements a syscall I wrote this module on 3.2-release, although this module is going to be used on a 3.0-release machine Don't run 3.0. Is it possible for me to hack my kernel module to work on freebsd 3.0-release?

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Matthew Luckie
Thanks for this. For what its worth: I have made the kernel module work with 3.0-release using the LKM interface instead, calling the MOD_SYSCALL wrapper (or whatever its called, can't remember). the examples of writing and calling an lkm syscall probably reflect the lkm interface itself. I was

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Luckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release. I am personally using 4.2-stable. Its not my decision to use 3.0 I beleive the computers running 3.0 have been running it for several years now - i.e. it was the latest available at the time.

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Black
mouss wrote: At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename already existing? Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making suggestions? I find nothing convincing in the manpage. Could you

vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Dan Phoenix
I went over to postfix to see if it did better.in fact it did on freebsd but still same problem with I/O. SOlution from talking to some people late last night would be to add another harddrive and stripe it with another drive using vinum. As you all know IDE does not do multitasking unlike

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Matt Dillon
Well, that's a jump. You never said how bumping maxusers went! However, we have finally gotten a clue to how much mail you are pushing.. 600MB in a day. That sure doesn't sound like something I would want to run a machine with an IDE drive. Why not just buy one of those

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Dan Phoenix
Yes maxusers stopped the dmesg errorsit seemed. Only thing I do not like to much about postfix is that it only tries one MX record and then does not try any others"default"yes there is still backlog with #'s I gave you. Right now 8 min to get an email from sending...I have another

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dan Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 13:42] wrote: Yes maxusers stopped the dmesg errorsit seemed. Only thing I do not like to much about postfix is that it only tries one MX record and then does not try any others"default"yes there is still backlog with #'s I gave you.

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 13:05] wrote: mouss wrote: At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename already existing? Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Dan Phoenix
Sounds reasonable...do you have a url to a trustable supplier? On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:08:43 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dan Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 15:30] wrote: Get a hardware raid card, you can even get a bootable IDE RAID, although hotswap scsi means less downtime. For a project this big you're really being pretty thrifty with the hardware allocated to it. The time you save hacking on

Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread Kevin Brunelle
Hey everyone, Sorry if you have heard this before, or if it is annoying. I just can't seem to find any information on this. I have been poking around my kernel for quite some time now, and I have been doing it with various text editors and programs of that nature. It suddenly occured to me that

Re: Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
It's bad form to use "reply" when starting a new thread, people with normal mailers see your message as part of a thread that it's not related to. * Kevin Brunelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 16:25] wrote: Hey everyone, Sorry if you have heard this before, or if it is annoying. I just can't

procfs

2001-02-07 Thread Sean Cull
Hi! I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place or not, or who's going to end up reading it, but here goes... I installed FreeBSD the other day, and accepted the Auto-defaults for partitions (/usr, /var, etc.) and the installation went fine. I then proceeded to install a few ports,

Re: procfs

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Sean Cull [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 16:55] wrote: Hi! I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place or not, or who's going to end up reading it, but here goes... I installed FreeBSD the other day, and accepted the Auto-defaults for partitions (/usr, /var, etc.) and the

building boot floppies set

2001-02-07 Thread Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios
May some one give me some help where i can find documentation on building my own boot floppy disk for freebsd ? Thanks in advance! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Black
Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 13:05] wrote: mouss wrote: At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename already existing? Why not just read the man page

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 7 February 2001 at 13:41:29 -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote: btw ccd requires 2 other drives am i correct? No, you can use ccd with only 2 drives. So i just remove /var/ basically from fstab ...raid0 2 drives together and mount that as var...is my basic understanding. of course of

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 7 February 2001 at 13:31:26 -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: In anycase, while VINUM is great for striping disks I recommend that you use CCD to begin with, because CCD is a whole lot less complex. You can stripe IDE drives but the two drives must be on different IDE

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 7 February 2001 at 13:16:44 -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:13:57PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Andre Oppermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010206 12:07] wrote: Does sendmail even use fsync()? It better. :) Quick

Re: Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread awr
VI FOR LIFE On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Kevin Brunelle wrote: Hey everyone, Sorry if you have heard this before, or if it is annoying. I just can't seem to find any information on this. I have been poking around my kernel for quite some time now, and I have been doing it with various text

Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 17:33] wrote: Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 13:05] wrote: mouss wrote: At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: Tony Finch wrote: Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new

Re: Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
I have been poking around my kernel for quite some time now, and I have been doing it with various text editors and programs of that nature. It suddenly occured to me that there might be a better way to go about this. So I ask you, are there any programs that make reading and editing the

Re: Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread Drew Eckhardt
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey everyone, Sorry if you have heard this before, or if it is annoying. I just can't seem to find any information on this. I have been poking around my kernel for quite some time now, and I have been doing it with various text editors and

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Matt Dillon
:Yes maxusers stopped the dmesg errorsit seemed. Only thing I do not :like to much about postfix is that it only tries one MX record and then :does not try any others"default"yes there is still backlog with :#'s I gave you. Right now 8 min to get an email from sending...I have

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Matthew Emmerton
On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Matthew Luckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release. I am personally using 4.2-stable. Its not my decision to use 3.0 I beleive the computers running 3.0 have been running it for several years now -

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Dan Langille
On 7 Feb 2001, at 21:14, Matthew Emmerton wrote: On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Matthew Luckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release. I am personally using 4.2-stable. Its not my decision to use 3.0 I beleive the computers

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Matthew Emmerton
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Dan Langille wrote: On 7 Feb 2001, at 21:14, Matthew Emmerton wrote: On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Matthew Luckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release. I am personally using 4.2-stable. Its not my

Re: building boot floppies set

2001-02-07 Thread Nick Rogness
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote: May some one give me some help where i can find documentation on building my own boot floppy disk for freebsd ? Most info about the FreeBSD OS can be obtained via the website at:

Re: Kernel editing tools.

2001-02-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Kevin Brunelle wrote: Sorry if you have heard this before, or if it is annoying. I just can't seem to find any information on this. I have been poking around my kernel for quite some time now, and I have been doing it with various text editors and programs of that

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:56:14PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be possible for someone experiencing this slowdown to try to narrow down the

Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release

2001-02-07 Thread Dan Feldman
Hmm, I have exactly the same situation, a mission-critical server that can't be taken offline to do an upgrade. It's running 3.4, but with a few binaries from 4.0 that I needed to make our CGIs work (development is done on 4.2 :). Anyway, for the kernel it MIGHT be possible to "borrow" one from

Re: vinum and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems)

2001-02-07 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 01:16:44PM -0800, Dan Phoenix scribbled: | I went over to postfix to see if it did better.in fact it did on | freebsd but still same problem with I/O. SOlution from talking to some | people late last night would be to add another harddrive and stripe it | with another

Re: Extremely large (70TB) File system/server planning

2001-02-07 Thread fab
Hi Mens, it's exact that filers can't exceed 6TB but we can have eaysyly performance (pretty so good) with their. If you try to have EMC box or IBM, you will have to manage anything that it's not your job (IO for example). I think that netapp can be a very simple solution (where other man

Re: documenting an ioctl interface

2001-02-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 05:18:22PM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: I'm working one some code which among other things introduces a new ioctl interface for IEEE802.11 devices. Since there are a number of useful apps which might want to use this iterface and a number of drivers which will need to

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:56:14PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Robert Watson
On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be possible for someone