Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? listenning intel? On 8 Jul 1999, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Elischer) writes: we already use the

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Elischer) writes: we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) You can't extend the address space that way,

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patryk Zadarnowski) writes: You can't extend the address space that way, segments are all parts of the single 4GB address space described by the page mapping. True, but you can reserve a part of the 4GB address space (say 128MB of it) for partitioning into tiny (say

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-08 Thread Alan Barrett
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Jamie Howard wrote: The FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD manpage for grep says this: Grep understands two different versions of regular expression syntax: ``basic'' and ``extended.'' In GNU grep, there is no difference in available functionality

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:03:10 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: I have done. As far as I can tell, the submitter is saying "Yes, the information I was looking for was in the manual page, but it (specifically, that the "root" account doesn't use the "default" entry) is buried as a throw away

need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Geza Fodor
hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. - laptop dials to my desktop pc - laptop sends some command - desktop hangs up and dials to local isp -

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Mark Newton
Geza Fodor wrote: i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. You should be able to write some scripts which do this; theoretically, the "some commands to

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:54:42 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, dfr then it sounds very good. The idea of taking 6000+

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Hello! I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunderNew Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:54:42 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, dfr then it

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunderNew Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:00:24 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There is one problem in this method. acquire_timer0() is only implemented for i386. We would need to write something equivalent for alpha... dfr The timer hardware on the alpha is essentially the same but the

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between programs... All this while Windows has a very interesting clipboard system that

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. :You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's :own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? : :listenning intel? This is intel we are talking about. Their mmu/cache technology is always a few years behind the times.

RE: implementing a fs on a raw partition

1999-07-08 Thread Alton, Matthew
If someone in the FS dept. would draw up a broad outline for FS implementation I hereby volunteer to flesh it out thoroughly and donate the end-product docs to the FreeBSD project. I am a professional UNIX (AIX/SOLARIS) programmer and fairly clueful kernel source peruser and tweaker, fully

mbuf shortages

1999-07-08 Thread Jayanth Vijayaraghavan
If a system runs out of mbufs can memory be claimed from elsewhere or is the system pretty much dead especially for networking related allocations. jayanth To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't do the install with one. I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings. Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the install

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-08 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
Nope, I did read the docs, hence the patch to the manpage to make it stand out more clearly. I still am of the opinion that "default" should mean "default" for everyone. AFIK, there are no other fields in passwd that have different interpretations/defaults depending upon the UID. This

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman
However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't do the install with one. I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings. Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the install

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a distribution , it fails, locking in the same way. I'm talking with Intel to see if they have had similar problems. I read something in the source about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits... could

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
this is problematic. you cannot add a new element before the pending firing because you can't tell how far into the present trigger you are. On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Hi! I saw your posting on the HU list and was actually able to understand the Subject: line! (I guess it wasn't that difficult) It's fun to se the 'correct translation' so I could compare.. julian On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Geza Fodor wrote: hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with

Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, The following program returns an inconsistant rc/errno value. Setting a bit corresponding to filedescriptor which is not open is only found when it is less than 20. ie: Some example output follows along with the program. This is being run on a -current system. If I open a file on fd

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Luigi Rizzo
I'm not asking any of you to prepare a resume - we're starting JUST with the core team bios and pictures here. :) i knew you were not humans... cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Hi, The following program returns an inconsistant rc/errno value. Setting a bit corresponding to filedescriptor which is not open is only found when it is less than 20. ie: This is because initially, only 20 descriptors are

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:This is because initially, only 20 descriptors are allocated, and :the system is quietly ignoring any descriptors over the allocated :amount: : :if (uap-nd p-p_fd-fd_nfiles) :uap-nd = p-p_fd-fd_nfiles; /* forgiving; slightly wrong */ : :This should be: : :if

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Jul 07, 1999 at 02:33:19PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: Not unless you want to blow up virtually every program that uses select!!! Passing an nd parameter that is greater then the current number of descriptors is perfectly valid. It's setting a bit in the bitmask for one

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Hmm, you're right. Arguably, it could return EINVAL. Actually, the :man page documents this behavior, although it gets the 256 number wrong. : : If nfds is greater than the number of open files, select() is not guaran- : teed to examine the unused file descriptors. For historical

dbm_* manpages for review

1999-07-08 Thread Nik Clayton
-hackers, Tim Singletary has written some man pages for the dbm_* functions in libc, which are currently undocumented -- we know they are written in terms of dbopen(), but it's nice to have them documented anyway. Could anyone who knows anything about DBM take a look at docs/12557 and let me

Re: support for i386 hardware debug watch points

1999-07-08 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I just wondered if this should be integrated into ptrace(), so the various debuggers wouldn't have to know about it. It seems that would be the proper abstraction - hardware that supports it would "have it" - and the programs that "used it" wouldn't have to know anything special. I only have

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Brian Somers
hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. - laptop dials to my desktop pc - laptop sends some command - desktop hangs up and dials to local

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-08 Thread Wes Peters
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Assar Westerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof("^(") + + sizeof(")$") + 1); Why not just use asprintf? Doesn't matter, thsis code

Wrong comment in VM code?

1999-07-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
At the beginning of the file vm_object.c, we have the following comment: The only items within the object structure which are modified after time of creation are: reference count locked by object's lock pager routine locked by object's lock But at the end of

Re: Simplifying Vinum (was: ufs/ffs resize?)

1999-07-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I think you'll find, once you get that far, that things are anything but trivial. I'm certainly open to suggestions, but consider: vinum -i /dev/something volumename Where does it insert it? What if the volume has more than one plex, which it will in the case of a mirror? OK,

Re: support for i386 hardware debug watch points

1999-07-08 Thread Brian Dean
From: Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just wondered if this should be integrated into ptrace(), so the various debuggers wouldn't have to know about it. It seems that would be the proper abstraction - hardware that supports it would "have it" - and the programs that "used it"

Re: Simplifying Vinum (was: ufs/ffs resize?)

1999-07-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 18:52:41 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think you'll find, once you get that far, that things are anything but trivial. I'm certainly open to suggestions, but consider: vinum -i /dev/something volumename Where does it insert it? What if the volume has

matcd on an SB16

1999-07-08 Thread Mark Newton
I've been following a local Linux mailing list, and a couple of the users there have been trying FreeBSD ('cos I'm giving a presentation on it at a Linux user group meeting next month :-) One of them has an SB16 with a CD-ROM drive. His attempts at installing FreeBSD from that CD-ROM have met

sigaction inconsistancy (here I go again)

1999-07-08 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, Running -current... I'm trying to verify SIGFPE handling and am finding some interesting issues. In the following test program, a divide by zero is done and the SIGFPE delivered. $ ./fp sig == 8 code== 0 z has the value 1.00 It seems that from machine/trap.h the value of

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-08 Thread Wes Peters
Tony Finch wrote: User Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? The web pages for Berkeley DB 2 claim that it does (note version 2, not 1.85 as

question: delay of a context - switch

1999-07-08 Thread Thomas Klein
Hi Dose anyone know how long a the kernel is busy with context switching (beetween two processes) ? Has anyone tested this yet? I estimate of about 7 usec duration for that, (on a Pentium 400) but I think that's to long. Regards Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman
Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup. I know at least 1 netbsd person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). Has anyone seen problems like these? Any ideas? Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any problems. Strange.

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer jul...@whistle.com said: julian With your scheme the clock needs to be always running at elevated speed. julian Possibly you might have a startup routine that turns on the elevated julian frequency, (basically does an 'aquire_timer0()'

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) You can't extend the address space that way,

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? listenning intel? On 8 Jul 1999, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: we already use the

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) You can't extend the address space that way,

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-08 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
dil...@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon) writes: pair-down the fields in both structures. For example, the vnode structure contains a lot of temporary clustering fields that could be removed entirely if clustering operations are done at the time of the actual I/O rather

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
patr...@mycenae.ilion.eu.org (Patryk Zadarnowski) writes: You can't extend the address space that way, segments are all parts of the single 4GB address space described by the page mapping. True, but you can reserve a part of the 4GB address space (say 128MB of it) for partitioning into

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-08 Thread Alan Barrett
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Jamie Howard wrote: The FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD manpage for grep says this: Grep understands two different versions of regular expression syntax: ``basic'' and ``extended.'' In GNU grep, there is no difference in available functionality using

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:03:10 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: I have done. As far as I can tell, the submitter is saying Yes, the information I was looking for was in the manual page, but it (specifically, that the root account doesn't use the default entry) is buried as a throw away comment at

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer jul...@whistle.com said: julian With your scheme the clock needs to be always running at elevated speed. julian Possibly you might have a startup routine that turns on the elevated

need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Geza Fodor
hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. - laptop dials to my desktop pc - laptop sends some command - desktop hangs up and dials to local isp -

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Mark Newton
Geza Fodor wrote: i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. You should be able to write some scripts which do this; theoretically, the some commands to

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:54:42 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson d...@nlsystems.com said: dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, dfr then it sounds very good. The idea of taking 6000+

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Hello! I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:54:42 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson d...@nlsystems.com said: dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, dfr then it

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunderNew Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:00:24 +0100 (BST), Doug Rabson d...@nlsystems.com said: There is one problem in this method. acquire_timer0() is only implemented for i386. We would need to write something equivalent for alpha... dfr The timer hardware on the alpha is essentially the same but the

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-08 Thread Kiakas
You might also want to look a GNUstep ( www.gnustep.org ) as well. stef You wrote: - Whether a similar solution already exists in the freenix world (perhaps in Linux?) Might want to look into the various distributed object models being considered (don't both the KDE and GNOME people have

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Bruce Evans
dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, dfr then it sounds very good. The idea of taking 6000+ interrupts/sec made me dfr uneasy, even though most would return without doing any work.

/etc/skel vs /usr/share/skel

1999-07-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Do we still need /etc/skel in the hier(7) manpage and in BSD.root.dist? It looks to me like an hysterical raisin that should be taken out and shot. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Somebody should study the abilities of the on-cpu APIC for this for pentium ff. machines. In message 199907081527.baa04...@godzilla.zeta.org.au, Bruce Evans writes: dfr If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 dfr so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between programs... All this while Windows has a very interesting clipboard system that

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. :You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's :own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? : :listenning intel? This is intel we are talking about. Their mmu/cache technology is always a few years behind the times.

RE: implementing a fs on a raw partition

1999-07-08 Thread Alton, Matthew
If someone in the FS dept. would draw up a broad outline for FS implementation I hereby volunteer to flesh it out thoroughly and donate the end-product docs to the FreeBSD project. I am a professional UNIX (AIX/SOLARIS) programmer and fairly clueful kernel source peruser and tweaker, fully

mbuf shortages

1999-07-08 Thread Jayanth Vijayaraghavan
If a system runs out of mbufs can memory be claimed from elsewhere or is the system pretty much dead especially for networking related allocations. jayanth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't do the install with one. I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings. Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the install

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-08 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
Nope, I did read the docs, hence the patch to the manpage to make it stand out more clearly. I still am of the opinion that default should mean default for everyone. AFIK, there are no other fields in passwd that have different interpretations/defaults depending upon the UID. This is

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman
However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't do the install with one. I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings. Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the install

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a distribution , it fails, locking in the same way. I'm talking with Intel to see if they have had similar problems. I read something in the source about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits... could

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
this is problematic. you cannot add a new element before the pending firing because you can't tell how far into the present trigger you are. On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Hi! I saw your posting on the HU list and was actually able to understand the Subject: line! (I guess it wasn't that difficult) It's fun to se the 'correct translation' so I could compare.. julian On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Geza Fodor wrote: hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with internet

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-08 Thread Doug
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: RTFM isn't a newby-apparent term. Name it help(1). Sure it is. Some hapless newbie wanders into #FreeBDS on efnet, and asks an already answered question. Aside from a kick, and a possible ban, they're

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Justin C. Walker
From: Jay Kuri j...@oneway.com Date: 1999-07-08 11:19:01 -0700 To: David Greenman d...@root.com Subject: Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards Cc: hack...@freebsd.org In-reply-to: 199907081808.laa29...@implode.root.com Delivered-to: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
just collecting URLs for people home pages might be an easier task perhaps ? It needs to look better than that. A list of URL's would not look like a staff page, it would look like a cheesy, uninteresting page of links. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Luigi Rizzo
just collecting URLs for people home pages might be an easier task perhaps ? It needs to look better than that. A list of URL's would not look like a staff page, it would look like a cheesy, uninteresting page of links. :) still it can be a starting point. What success do you expect by

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Gary Jennejohn
Jordan K. Hubbard writes: just collecting URLs for people home pages might be an easier task perhaps ? It needs to look better than that. A list of URL's would not look like a staff page, it would look like a cheesy, uninteresting page of links. :) besides, we don't all have, or even want to

HELP!! Slice info disappeared

1999-07-08 Thread Kazukiyo UEDA
Hi hackers, I need your helps, please. I have two IDE drives. They have two slices for FreeBSD and Windows on each. Last night I tried to install Windows 95 on the first IDE drive where FreeBSD 3.1.0-Stable has installed. I executed fdisk program on MS-DOS and created an active slice to make

Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, The following program returns an inconsistant rc/errno value. Setting a bit corresponding to filedescriptor which is not open is only found when it is less than 20. ie: Some example output follows along with the program. This is being run on a -current system. If I open a file on fd

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-08 Thread Nik Clayton
Sheldon, On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 10:23:06AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I have done. As far as I can tell, the submitter is saying Yes, the information I was looking for was in the manual page, but it (specifically, that the root account doesn't use the default entry) is buried as a

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I'm not asking any of you to prepare a resume - we're starting JUST with the core team bios and pictures here. :) - Jordan just collecting URLs for people home pages might be an easier task perhaps ? It needs to look better than that. A list of URL's would not look like a staff

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-08 Thread Luigi Rizzo
I'm not asking any of you to prepare a resume - we're starting JUST with the core team bios and pictures here. :) i knew you were not humans... cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/199907082010.qaa06...@bb01f39.unx.sas.com you write: Hi, The following program returns an inconsistant rc/errno value. Setting a bit corresponding to filedescriptor which is not open is only found when it is less than 20. ie: This is because initially,

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:This is because initially, only 20 descriptors are allocated, and :the system is quietly ignoring any descriptors over the allocated :amount: : :if (uap-nd p-p_fd-fd_nfiles) :uap-nd = p-p_fd-fd_nfiles; /* forgiving; slightly wrong */ : :This should be: : :if

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Jul 07, 1999 at 02:33:19PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: Not unless you want to blow up virtually every program that uses select!!! Passing an nd parameter that is greater then the current number of descriptors is perfectly valid. It's setting a bit in the bitmask for one

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Hmm, you're right. Arguably, it could return EINVAL. Actually, the :man page documents this behavior, although it gets the 256 number wrong. : : If nfds is greater than the number of open files, select() is not guaran- : teed to examine the unused file descriptors. For historical

Re: Strange select/poll behaviour [EBADF inconsistancy]

1999-07-08 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :Hmm, you're right. Arguably, it could return EINVAL. Actually, the :man page documents this behavior, although it gets the 256 number wrong. : : If nfds is greater than the number of open files, select() is not guaran- : teed to examine

dbm_* manpages for review

1999-07-08 Thread Nik Clayton
-hackers, Tim Singletary has written some man pages for the dbm_* functions in libc, which are currently undocumented -- we know they are written in terms of dbopen(), but it's nice to have them documented anyway. Could anyone who knows anything about DBM take a look at docs/12557 and let me

Re: support for i386 hardware debug watch points

1999-07-08 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I just wondered if this should be integrated into ptrace(), so the various debuggers wouldn't have to know about it. It seems that would be the proper abstraction - hardware that supports it would have it - and the programs that used it wouldn't have to know anything special. I only have a

Re: need a better solution as callback

1999-07-08 Thread Brian Somers
hi to all, i have a freebsd installed with internet connection on my desktop pc and on my laptop as well. because i am traveling a lot between two countries, i'd like to make followings. - laptop dials to my desktop pc - laptop sends some command - desktop hangs up and dials to local

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-08 Thread Wes Peters
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Assar Westerlund as...@sics.se writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no writes: + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof(^() + + sizeof()$) + 1); Why not just use asprintf? Doesn't matter, thsis code is

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Seigo Tanimura
From: Julian Elischer jul...@whistle.com Subject: Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: pine.bsf.3.95.990708112244.25198c-100...@current1.whistle.com julian this

Wrong comment in VM code?

1999-07-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
At the beginning of the file vm_object.c, we have the following comment: The only items within the object structure which are modified after time of creation are: reference count locked by object's lock pager routine locked by object's lock But at the end of

Re: Simplifying Vinum (was: ufs/ffs resize?)

1999-07-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I think you'll find, once you get that far, that things are anything but trivial. I'm certainly open to suggestions, but consider: vinum -i /dev/something volumename Where does it insert it? What if the volume has more than one plex, which it will in the case of a mirror? OK,

Re: support for i386 hardware debug watch points

1999-07-08 Thread Brian Dean
From: Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com I just wondered if this should be integrated into ptrace(), so the various debuggers wouldn't have to know about it. It seems that would be the proper abstraction - hardware that supports it would have it - and the programs that used it

Re: Simplifying Vinum (was: ufs/ffs resize?)

1999-07-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 18:52:41 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think you'll find, once you get that far, that things are anything but trivial. I'm certainly open to suggestions, but consider: vinum -i /dev/something volumename Where does it insert it? What if the volume has

matcd on an SB16

1999-07-08 Thread Mark Newton
I've been following a local Linux mailing list, and a couple of the users there have been trying FreeBSD ('cos I'm giving a presentation on it at a Linux user group meeting next month :-) One of them has an SB16 with a CD-ROM drive. His attempts at installing FreeBSD from that CD-ROM have met

sigaction inconsistancy (here I go again)

1999-07-08 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, Running -current... I'm trying to verify SIGFPE handling and am finding some interesting issues. In the following test program, a divide by zero is done and the SIGFPE delivered. $ ./fp sig == 8 code== 0 z has the value 1.00 It seems that from machine/trap.h the value of code

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-08 Thread Wes Peters
Tony Finch wrote: User Joe j...@monk.via.net wrote: Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? The web pages for Berkeley DB 2 claim that it does (note version 2, not 1.85 as