On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:28:49AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
4.3-STABLE.
Dunno what LTO is, my Amanda server is FBSD 4.3
Linear Tape Open. Some industry-standard-to-be that wants to replace DLT.
--
| / o / / _
You should note that there *is* a NetWorker freebsd client for both i386 and
alpha. But it's getting moldy. No, no server on FreeBSD yet.
I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can be
used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
4.3-STABLE.
Thus spake Ed Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
for my money, hw.ata.wc=1 soft updates OFF is a better performing
choice than hw.ata.wc=0 and soft updates ON.
(soft updates are great, but i really dislike the performance
stalls that it (or async mode) engenders with big
Thus spake j mckitrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Any devices using the ppbus will end up sharing the hardware port. If i want
to access this resource info, should i store it in my local driver's softc
structure, or extract it from the parent device (ppbus)?
What about bus_alloc_resource()?
Or is
Hi,
I'm not sure if this has been the default for gcc/cpp on FBSD
for a while but I noticed it since some ports failed to build
due to includes (present in /usr/local/include) not being found.
Has this changed, or is that port (wget) just broken.
IMO, the search path for cpp should
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:38:15AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
| Thus spake j mckitrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|
| Any devices using the ppbus will end up sharing the hardware port. If i want
| to access this resource info, should i store it in my local driver's softc
| structure, or
Hi all,
I have a question regarding modification of a FreeBSD gateway (the Internet
gateway for a LAN). What I want to do is to have the gateway pick up the
packets, modify the IP-header and resend the packet onto the network. This
is a little bit like a NAT but I want to be able to do it
Hi!
I'm working on a project in which I need to develop an installer able to install
Internet/intranet servers.
I want to do it compiling FreeBSD binaries and, the program, only have to copy these
on the new system.
The problem is with some packages like vpopmail which needs to use a UID from
On Thu, 24 May 2001, void wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:20:51AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
Why is knowing the file names cheating? It is almost certain
that the application will know the names of it's own files
(and won't be grepping the entire directory every time it
needs
Hello Urban,
I have a question regarding modification of a FreeBSD gateway (the Internet
gateway for a LAN). What I want to do is to have the gateway pick up the
packets, modify the IP-header and resend the packet onto the network. This
is a little bit like a NAT but I want to be able to do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can be
used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
4.3-STABLE.
I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
- but by now I'm used to Tivoli
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On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:38:00AM -0700, SJ wrote:
--- Alexander Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. File naming question:
whats the reasoning behind having bus.h and
bus_private.hwhats the significance of
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shannon wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:54:40PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
by default ;)
You are talking about controlling the IDE drive
According to my reading of kern_lock.c, it does support shared lock.
However, we are still using LK_EXCLUSIVE mode more often than necessary.
If I want to look up a directory or to read a buffer, I should be able to
use the LK_SHARED lock. Right now, only few places I have found using
LK_SHARED,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Andresen writes:
: If only FreeBSD could boot from those funky M-Systems flash disks.
We boot FreeBSD off of M-Systems flash disks all the time. Don't know
what the problem is with your boxes.
Warner
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Hi,
I have a couple of general questions regarding the
kernel: I'll appreciate any help whatsoever in this
regard.
1) In the ioconf.c file I see an entry for a resource
as:
{ at, RES_STRING, { (long)isa }},
^^^
Shouldnt (long) be (char*) ?
2) what
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:48:02AM -0500, Mike Silbersack wrote:
Write caching is now off by default. man ata to see how to turn it back
on.
U. I setting hw.ata.wc=1 and got:
ted:~$ sudo sysctl -w hw.ata.wc=1
sysctl: oid 'hw.ata.wc' is read only
I'm assuming that this is because my
Hi, I have sme major problems with getting the SMP support to work.
My machine is a Compaq Proliant 380D with dual 733 mhz pIII processors.
I run FreeBSD 4.3-REL.
I have added the two SMP lines in my kernel conf and delöeted the I*86_CPU
that I do not need.
Then I compiled the kernel and
SJ wrote:
Hi,
I have a couple of general questions regarding the
kernel: I'll appreciate any help whatsoever in this
regard.
1) In the ioconf.c file I see an entry for a resource
as:
{ at, RES_STRING, { (long)isa }},
^^^
Shouldnt (long)
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:18:13AM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:48:02AM -0500, Mike Silbersack wrote:
Write caching is now off by default. man ata to see how to turn it back
on.
U. I setting hw.ata.wc=1 and got:
ted:~$ sudo sysctl -w hw.ata.wc=1
sysctl: oid
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 07:30:28PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:18:13AM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
read-only, a one-liner in the ata man page (that I'm happy to write)
would be a good thing.
The relevant one-liner from the ata(4) man page is:
The following
SJ wrote:
Hi all,
I am new to writing device drivers...so please excuse
my ignorance.
I have a couple of questions regarding that:
1. ioconf.c contains struct config_resource and
config_device definitions for declarations in
config file. But I noticed that for some devices
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
You are not the only one. I can appreciate the `neat' factor, but I
cringed at the commit. It seems like functionality that would be
better put in a separate utility (or port even). It's not like you'd
ever want to run the NVT protocol over
[cc: trimmed]
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:10:10AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
It depends on how you look at it. If you see telnet as a network client,
then you cringe at this (I did initially). But when you think about it,
all telnet really does is connect to sockets, so why not extend its
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:25:59PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shannon wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:54:40PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
Gordon == Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gordon It depends on how you look at it. If you see telnet as a
Gordon network client, then you cringe at this
PF_UNIX is a network protocol on par with PF_INET, or any other
PF_*.
This thread is getting silly. Let's give it a rest.
Jacques == Jacques A Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jacques [1] I think it was Peter who did mention one application
Jacques of this (NVT over AF_UNIX), which would be for
Jacques communication with `jails'. This is pretty specialized,
Jacques and requires a telnet daemon
On Wed 2001-05-23 (22:08), Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:10:20PM -0400, James Howard wrote:
I am missing something here. Is there a practical use for this? :)
You are not the only one. I can appreciate the `neat' factor, but I
cringed at the commit. It seems
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Howa
rd writes:
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
As a more general solution I have an inetd that groks AF_UNIX. You
would have to add chroot/jail support to it, though, and some would
argue that that's making inetd a bit featureful.
Right, its
Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
| On Thu, 24 May 2001, void wrote:
|
| On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:20:51AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
|
| Why is knowing the file names cheating? It is almost certain
| that the application will know the names of it's own files
| (and won't be grepping the
:Because `all telnet really does is connect to sockets' is patently
:false. Check out the nearly 100 RFCs detailing the TELNET protocol.
:Almost none of these make much sense to do over UNIX domain sockets
:[1].
Huh? Oh yah, *that* protocol. Telnet only does that if the server
Greg Black wrote:
Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
| This still doesn't make sense to me. It's not like the program is going
| to want to do a find on the directory every time it has some data it
| wants to put somewhere. I think for the majority of the cases (I'm sure
| there are exceptions) an
I've put up my AF_UNIX patches for inetd at:
ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/lyndon/freebsd/inetd.AF_UNIX.patch
The indentation is really gross. I did most of the edits with emacs
using its default C style. I didn't want to run the source through
indent in case the whitespace diffs obscured the real
Matt == Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Matt But unix-domain sockets are
Matt extremely useful in all manner of applications
They're also anywhere from 10-400% faster than PF_INET for connections
to the localhost (it varies a lot between different UNIX
implementations).
--lyndon
In a message dated 05/23/2001 5:04:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tell them to fire 20K packets/second at the linux box and watch it
crumble.
Linux has lots of little kludges to make it appear faster on some
benchmarks,
but from a networking standpoint it
:I've put up my AF_UNIX patches for inetd at:
:
: ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/lyndon/freebsd/inetd.AF_UNIX.patch
:
:The indentation is really gross. I did most of the edits with emacs
:using its default C style. I didn't want to run the source through
:indent in case the whitespace diffs obscured the
:Matt But unix-domain sockets are
:Matt extremely useful in all manner of applications
:
:They're also anywhere from 10-400% faster than PF_INET for connections
:to the localhost (it varies a lot between different UNIX
:implementations).
:
:--lyndon
What, you don't think we should be
] Terry Lambert writes:
]
] I don't understand the inability to perform the trivial
] design engineering necessary to keep from needing to put
] 60,000 files in one directory.
]
] However, we can take it as a given that people who need
] to do this are incapable of doing computer science.
Matt Dillon wrote:
:Matt But unix-domain sockets are
:Matt extremely useful in all manner of applications
:
:They're also anywhere from 10-400% faster than PF_INET for connections
:to the localhost (it varies a lot between different UNIX
:implementations).
:
:--lyndon
What,
I was just testing out a new configuration, when I get two of
these about an hour apart, and then another today:
ts8 /kernel: ad4: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ts8 /kernel: ata2: resetting devices .. done
Needless to say, this is a problem. Here is the boot info:
ts8
I recently acquired a new Yamaha 2100E ATAPI CDRW drive, and encountered
this error during the fixation stage with burncd on a FreeBSD 4.3 release
system:
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error
and the kernel complains:
acd0: MODE_SELECT_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=1a ascq=00
] 1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
] caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
] by default ;)
]
] You are talking about controlling the IDE drive cache.
]
] The issue here is write cache in the filesystem code.
No. The issue here is the
From: Greg Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
And if this imaginary program is going to do that, it's equally
easy to use a multilevel directory structure and that will make
the life of all users of the system simpler. There's no real
excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
On Thu, 24 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can
be used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and
FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE.
I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg.
Amanda) - but by now I'm
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:23:28PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently acquired a new Yamaha 2100E ATAPI CDRW drive, and encountered
this error during the fixation stage with burncd on a FreeBSD 4.3 release
system:
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error
and the
Shannon Hendrix wrote:
You are talking about controlling the IDE drive cache.
The issue here is write cache in the filesystem code.
1) IIRC they were talking about hw.ata.wc
In a subthread, yeah. I think though, the overall issue is the caching
ext2 does that ufs does not. I'm
Jason Andresen wrote:
And if this imaginary program is going to do that, it's equally
easy to use a multilevel directory structure and that will make
the life of all users of the system simpler. There's no real
excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
files.
No,
Urban Olsson wrote:
...
is a little bit like a NAT but I want to be able to do it differently and on
my own terms. I guess that this means that I would be forced to rewrite the
gateway source-code so it behaves as I want it to. So the problem now is
Hmm, certainly you can use the divert(4)
Currently, upgrading packages is more painful than it should be. However,
it would not take much work to make things significantly more friendly -
1. pkg_add - when a package is installed, it should check for an older
version of itself, and if the new version provides
fyi, here's another hw.ata.wc=1 vs hw.ata.wc=0 comparison:
4.3-RELEASE install, ASUS A7V, 800mhz, hw.ata.wc=0, express install +all,
60gig wd-600b udma100 drive, partitioned as:
/8192m
swap 1024m
/xtra 48023m
Hi,
I got some VAXen 6420, big machines. Mine has 6 CPUs. I was planning
to boot myself with Ultrix, and then go on with NetBSD. Even
NetBSD's port-vax needs some tweaking for my hardware, XMI and
BI bus support is blank. I am with FreeBSD forever and FreeBSD
has SMP which NetBSD has not. I
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 05:00:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux has lots of little kludges to make it appear faster on some
benchmarks,
but from a networking standpoint it cant handle significant network
loads.
Are you sure this is still true? The 2.4.x series
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Langer
writes:
: Thus spake SJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
:
: Hi!
:
: 1. ioconf.c contains struct config_resource and
: config_device definitions for declarations in
: config file. But I noticed that for some devices
: e.g. device
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] j mckitrick writes:
: I'd like to finalize the newbus work by changing inb()/outb() calls to
: bus_space_write calls. Is there a device where this has been partially done
: already? I'd like to see the old and new styles, then i would fix the
: vpo/imm zip driver
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] SJ writes:
: But still the name private confuses me...according
: to
: me it should have been bus_public.c. Any comments?
Yes. You aren't allowed to use anything that's inside of
bus_private.h in your driver. That's why it is called private. Only
certain parts of
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] j mckitrick writes:
: Any devices using the ppbus will end up sharing the hardware port. If i want
: to access this resource info, should i store it in my local driver's softc
: structure, or extract it from the parent device (ppbus)?
There should be a method for
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] j mckitrick writes:
: Well, all of the resources have already been allocated when the ppc device
: has been attached. The hardware port and interrupt have already been
: reserved and stored in the softc data structure for ppc. All devices
: attached to ppc, like
Hi,
Can someone provide some insight as to why UIO_MAXIOV
is hidden inside _KERNEL?
#ifdef _KERNEL
struct uio {
struct iovec *uio_iov;
int uio_iovcnt;
off_t uio_offset;
int uio_resid;
enumuio_seg uio_segflg;
enumuio_rw
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:42:02PM -0600, Charles Randall wrote:
From: Greg Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
There's no real
excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
files.
While I agree completely that there's no excuse for
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:34:26PM +, Terry Lambert wrote:
] 1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
] caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
] by default ;)
]
] You are talking about controlling the IDE drive cache.
]
] The issue
Hi,
I got some VAXen 6420, big machines. Mine has 6 CPUs. I was planning
to boot myself with Ultrix, and then go on with NetBSD. Even
you need heaters for the winter, right :)
cheers
luigi
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On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 06:17:33AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
the life of all users of the system simpler. There's no real
excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
files.
One of the things that I've always liked about Unix was that
there aren't as many arbitrary limits on
Andrew Reilly wrote:
| On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 06:17:33AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| the life of all users of the system simpler. There's no real
| excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
| files.
|
| [...]
|
| Nothing in Unix stops you from putting millions of files in
On 25 May, Greg Black wrote:
This is just not true. For the vast majority of the systems
that have ever been called Unix, attempting to put millions of
files into a directory would be an utter disaster. No ifs or
buts. It might be nice if this were different, although I see
no good reason
Andrew Reilly wrote:
| You can moan about tree-structured vs relational databases, [...]
I can moan about whatever I please -- for instance the fact that
you can't be bothered using a mailer that conforms with basic
rules. Please figure out how to get a Message-Id header into
your mail and
Erm, folks? Can anyone please tell me what this has to do with
freebsd-hackers any longer? It's been quite a long thread
already - have a heart please and take it to -chat. :(
Thanks,
- Jordan
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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
Hi,
I got some VAXen 6420, big machines. Mine has 6 CPUs. I was planning
to boot myself with Ultrix, and then go on with NetBSD. Even
you need heaters for the winter, right :)
the 6000s are not that bad. About 600W depending on features.
The 11/780, 8000, and 9000
Ed Hudson wrote:
fyi, here's another hw.ata.wc=1 vs hw.ata.wc=0 comparison:
4.3-RELEASE install, ASUS A7V, 800mhz, hw.ata.wc=0, express install +all,
60gig wd-600b udma100 drive, partitioned as:
/8192m
swap 1024m
Sun, May 20, 2001 at 19:53:29, barry (Barry Lustig) wrote about Boot time memory
issue:
Do verbose boot (`boot -v') with large SC_HISTORY_SIZE (1000 at least,
2000 at most), and after boot check for SMAP ... lines at the very
beginning of the kernel boot log at /dev/console. (They are not
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