Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:23:35, tlambert2 (Terry Lambert) wrote about Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..: make buildkernel is rather easy way to work it around: in any case object tree is machine-dependent, and one yet another directory does not destroy anything. ;| The make

Re: resolv.conf options

2001-06-24 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 19:01:42, LConrad (Len Conrad) wrote about resolv.conf options: RTFS ;)) s man resolv.conf talks about options, but not timeout or retry S means source. For FreeBSD standard resolver, source of /etc/resolv.conf reading is in src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c. But you are

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread freebsd-hackers
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:50:00AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Why can't we do it like NetBSD and have sys/${MACHINE_ARCH}/compile? It makes it harder to make src/sys/compile a single simple symlink to writable storage. Our /sys layout is suffiently different from NetBSD, I don't think

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread hackers
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:51:54PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:43:58AM -0700, Matthew Jacob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, and you're right. But we'll probably never do this (tm). Never say never. I for one am in favor of that system. =) Yuck! Puke! I for one

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread hackers
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:42:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: Please use ${MACHINE}, not ${MACHINE_ARCH}. That way I can build GENERIC for both i386 and pc98 at the same time without resorting to the GENERIC98 hack I use now. ... I'd be up for doing this, so long as I got to choose where to

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread freebsd-hackers
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:11:36PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: On 22-Jun-01 Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes: : 2) Build kernels in sys/compile/${MACHINE_ARCH}/FOO rather than : sys/compile/FOO. Please use ${MACHINE}, not ${MACHINE_ARCH}. That way I

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:44:51PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: On 23-Jun-01 Peter Pentchev wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:23:35PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: make buildkernel is rather easy way to work it around: in any case object tree is machine-dependent, and one yet another

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-24 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in Interix, or are you just talking out your ass as

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Soren Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I now has prototypes avaliable of low cost PCI and MiniPCI boards, moving to production in a couple of weeks, I would like to check up on the work, as I would really like to see FreeBSD support. The boards are now supported in OpenBSD 2.9. OK, so

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Dag-Erling Smorgrav([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.24 17:48:47 +: Soren Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I now has prototypes avaliable of low cost PCI and MiniPCI boards, moving to production in a couple of weeks, I would like to check up on the work, as I would really like to see

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Karsten W. Rohrbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i think ipsec crypto abstraction into hardware is one side of the medal, but the other side -- to be polished first -- ist getting openssl onto the iron. What you're basically trying to say is that you want a userland interface to the crypto

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Valentin Nechayev
sys/${MACHINE_ARCH}/compile? It makes it harder to make src/sys/compile a single simple symlink to writable storage. There is no need to make symlink in src tree. -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Are you David O'Brien or freebsd-hackers list itself? /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: cloning network interfaces

2001-06-24 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:51:13 -0700 Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: brooks Ok, after a week and a half of doing other things, I've got a patch brooks together which adds interface cloning based on NetBSD's code. The brooks difference is that you may pass an interface of the from gif# if

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Dag-Erling Smorgrav([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.24 18:20:53 +: Karsten W. Rohrbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i think ipsec crypto abstraction into hardware is one side of the medal, but the other side -- to be polished first -- ist getting openssl onto the iron. What you're basically

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Karsten W. Rohrbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yup, exactly. to me it seems to be a major problem to get some unified api out of openssl adressing fucnctions on the hardware -- i simply do not know how other crypto chipsets do it, i just investigated the rainbow board. they got a patch against

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-24 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: sure. my impression with the rainbow guys was, that they are very open to the opensource community. they supplied a board, (user) docs and the unreleased driver/openssl code to us and i was very impressed about their attitude

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Bsdguru
In a message dated 6/24/01 12:33:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A 3.x driver *could* be ported forward to 4.x and 5.x, but the required changes are not trivial (newbus, SMPng...) and you'd still need sample boards for testing and debugging, and docs for reference

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Dag-Erling Smorgrav([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.24 18:38:31 +: Karsten W. Rohrbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yup, exactly. to me it seems to be a major problem to get some unified api out of openssl adressing fucnctions on the hardware -- i simply do not know how other crypto chipsets

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Soren Kristensen
Hi, Thanks for the responses so far. First, let me say that I'm a hardware guy, and don't know all the details of FreeBSD's network stack. There is two common kind of hardware encryption acceleration, and I think they're being mixed a little here. SSL is for secure web access, and the main

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Eric Masson
Bsdguru == Bsdguru [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bsdguru I'd suggest doing a study on the benefits as well. With 1+Ghz Bsdguru processors, the advantages of doing this in hardware become Bsdguru less than in the old days. Think about the embedded market, where 486 class processors are still

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Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 06:38:31PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Karsten W. Rohrbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yup, exactly. to me it seems to be a major problem to get some unified api out of openssl adressing fucnctions on the hardware -- i simply do not know how other crypto

trouble with 802.11 and kernel bridging....

2001-06-24 Thread list tracker
I have compiled options BRIDGE into my kernel. (also options IPFIREWALL, and IPSTEALTH, but probably not important). So I booted up with ep0 and wi0 in their slots, everything is great. I set up bridging with: sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge=1 then made sure everything was wide open:

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:42:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : Please use ${MACHINE}, not ${MACHINE_ARCH}. That way I can build : GENERIC for both i386 and pc98 at the same time without resorting to : the GENERIC98 hack I use now. : ...

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Sure, sounds good. Actually, with mjacob's suggestion, I would go with : sys/${MACHINE}/compile/FOO : : pc98 and powerpc variations will make this ugly. No they won't. pc98 is the reason that this *MAKES* sense. Warner To

Re: include directive in config(8) (was: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..)

2001-06-24 Thread Warner Losh
Is there a way to undef an option? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:50:00AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: : Why can't we do it like NetBSD and have : : sys/${MACHINE_ARCH}/compile? : : It makes it harder to make src/sys/compile a single simple symlink to : writable storage.

Re: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..

2001-06-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Which is another good reason for sys/compile/${MACHINE}/FOO : Otherwise where DOES the pc98 kernel builds happen? Under the : non-existant sys/pc98/ ? David, a simple ls to sys/pc98 shows that it is populated with lots of files. % ls

Re: include directive in config(8) (was: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..)

2001-06-24 Thread Dima Dorfman
Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to undef an option? I thought about this, too. Right now there isn't a way to do that, and neither OpenBSD nor NetBSD have one AFAIK. That said, I think it would be trivial to implement. The list of options and devices is a simple linked

auto-detect an inserted audio cd?

2001-06-24 Thread Brian Reichert
I poked though the archives, but didn't see anything that pointed to this: is there proscribed method for auto-detecting the insertion/ejection of an audio CD? I'm hoping for some daemon that provides notification events, rather than me having to write my on C code. :/ I'm looking for

DVD IOCTLs on IDE?

2001-06-24 Thread David Gilbert
Has anyone looked at DVD ioctls on IDE? It took me some time to realize (even after reading the source a couple of times) that the current DVD ioctls only apply to SCSI. Dave. -- |David Gilbert, Velocet

Re: DVD IOCTLs on IDE?

2001-06-24 Thread Brian Reichert
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 05:52:54PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: Has anyone looked at DVD ioctls on IDE? It took me some time to realize (even after reading the source a couple of times) that the current DVD ioctls only apply to SCSI. 'Looked at'? What do you mean? People have been making

Re: include directive in config(8) (was: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..)

2001-06-24 Thread Cyrille Lefevre
Dima Dorfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to undef an option? I thought about this, too. Right now there isn't a way to do that, and neither OpenBSD nor NetBSD have one AFAIK. That said, I think it would be trivial to implement. The

help on mounting linux partition

2001-06-24 Thread Weiguang Shi
Hi, I've sent this to freebsd-questions but no luck yet. I am using freebsd 4.0. and failed to mount a Linux partition on the second hard disk. Could you please shed some light? Thanks very much Weiguang == bash-2.04# fdisk

Re: DVD IOCTLs on IDE?

2001-06-24 Thread David Gilbert
Brian == Brian Reichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 05:52:54PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: Has anyone looked at DVD ioctls on IDE? It took me some time to realize (even after reading the source a couple of times) that the current DVD ioctls only apply to SCSI.

Re: DVD IOCTLs on IDE?

2001-06-24 Thread James Halstead
On Sunday 24 June 2001 20:12, David Gilbert wrote: ... One issue is that dvdio.h seems to be missing structure items that are required by dvd software. I have attempted to compile livid (oms) and videolan ... both which at least talk about working on BSD. Livid refuses to compile because

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Hi, Thanks for the responses so far. First, let me say that I'm a hardware guy, and don't know all the details of FreeBSD's network stack. There is two common kind of hardware encryption acceleration, and I think they're being

Re: trouble with 802.11 and kernel bridging (more)

2001-06-24 Thread list tracker
ok, thank you! This explains my inability to perform bridging like I expected to I've been told the wi driver can't do bridging. The Cisco/Aironet an driver can. Patches were submitted so you can do this. They are in the tree. If I want to turn a PC into a full-blown access point,

What happens to a connection between a select and accept...

2001-06-24 Thread Sean Chittenden
Quick question. Anyone know how gracefully the kernel handles a socket connection that is killed by the client between a select and accept call? I don't expect any problems, but I know there was a race condition in Linux that caused all kinds of nasty bugs and problems. Granted

Re: trouble with 802.11 and kernel bridging (more)

2001-06-24 Thread Julian Elischer
list tracker wrote: ok, thank you! This explains my inability to perform bridging like I expected to I've been told the "wi" driver can't do bridging. The Cisco/Aironet "an" driver can. Patches were submitted so you can do this. They are in the tree. If I want to turn a PC

Re: include directive in config(8) (was: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..)

2001-06-24 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 00:05:36, clefevre-lists (Cyrille Lefevre) wrote about Re: include directive in config(8) (was: Two Junior Kernel Hacker tasks..): how about undef options XXX and undef device XXX, etc. ? s/undef/no/ I like Cisco style ;))) /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Status of encryption hardware support in FreeBSD

2001-06-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Soren Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SSL is for secure web access, and the main need is for Public Key generating. This don't really have anything to do with the IP stack. Afaik, OpenSSL is more like a extension to the web server software. Try 'man openssl', or just 'openssl -help'.

Re: pthread/longjmp/signal problem

2001-06-24 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:55:10, louisphilippe (Louis-Philippe Gagnon) wrote about pthread/longjmp/signal problem: I've been trying to implement a IsBadReadPtr-style function in FreeBSD by using signal handlers and longjmp/setjmp. It seemed to work as expected, until I started using the

Re: What happens to a connection between a select and accept...

2001-06-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Sean Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quick question. Anyone know how gracefully the kernel handles a socket connection that is killed by the client between a select and accept call? I don't expect any problems, but I know there was a race condition in Linux that caused all kinds

Re: What happens to a connection between a select and accept...

2001-06-24 Thread Sean Chittenden
There was one in FreeBSD too. It's been fixed; accept(2) will return -1 and set errno to ECONNABORTED, which you'd know if you'd RTFM. Already RTFM'd. The following was a tad vague and it led me to be a skeptic. It is possible to select(2) a socket for the purposes of doing an

Re: DVD IOCTLs on IDE?

2001-06-24 Thread German Tischler
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:12:28PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: Brian == Brian Reichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 05:52:54PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: Has anyone looked at DVD ioctls on IDE? It took me some time to realize (even after reading the source a