Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On Thursday 08 January 2004 18:20, Avleen Vig wrote:
I understand it is difficult to maintain the floppies. I wish I
understood them better :-) Is it not possible to have ftp install
floppies, which do nothing more than simple FTP installations?
It wouldn't make it any
On Friday 09 January 2004 17:32, Scott Long wrote:
Scott also said stuff like SCSI cards won't get probed if a module is
loaded but I can't see why that is true.. The module will load, the
device get detected, and then sysinstall is told to reprobe the hardware,
so it should pick it up.
* Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-09 00:02 -0700]:
Well, except when mfsroot.gz becomes too large to fit on a single
floppy. Right now it is about 90k away from that. What happens when
mount_nfsv4 gets put on there? John Baldwin and I already spent a
day over the holiday break making
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 05:50:59PM +1030 I heard the voice of
Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus:
I don't necessarily agree here - I think sysinstall is a better place because
it's much much easier to write stuff for it than the loader. In the example
you mention the only reason to use
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On Friday 09 January 2004 17:32, Scott Long wrote:
Scott also said stuff like SCSI cards won't get probed if a module is
loaded but I can't see why that is true.. The module will load, the
device get detected, and then sysinstall is told to reprobe the hardware,
so it
Anyone help me how to untar a file with this extention file.tar.bz2 ?
Thanks,
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Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Incorrect. Scanning SCSI buses is something that does not happen
automatically. There is magic in the boot process that makes it happen
near the end, right before the kernel looks for the root device.
However, that is the exception to the rule. If you
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 12:48:55AM -0700 I heard the voice of
Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus:
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
BTW Does camcontrol rescan cause the devices to be detected? Perhaps
sysinstall could be enhanced to perform this duty as part of it's
reprobe machinations.
See my
YACINE GHANJAOUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone help me how to untar a file with this extention file.tar.bz2 ?
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
see man tar for details.
greets, josef
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YACINE GHANJAOUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem when recompiling my Unix Kernel. I want to enable
ipchains modules.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html
greets, josef
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
YACINE GHANJAOUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone help me how to untar a file with this extention file.tar.bz2 ?
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
tar xvjf
regards,
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Lukas Ertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
tar xvjf
i do not think that the order of the parameters
have any influence on the result.
-josef
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# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2004-01-08 16:36:30 -0800:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 06:36:42PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
That might be technically true, but the precise semantics of
(semi-)freeze aren't as widely known as you seem to think.
E. g. yesterday or today I received an email
On Freitag, 9. Januar 2004 10:33, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
Lukas Ertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
tar xvjf
i do not think that the order of the parameters
have any influence on the result.
No, but the filename has to be
On Friday 09 January 2004 19:37, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
2) use pciconf -l (or direct access to /dev/pci) to retrieve the PCI
IDs of unclaimed devices, look them up in a list of supported PCI
devices, and load the appropriate module.
You know, when I wrote the code in sysinstall to
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:00:40PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
You still need the right drivers, ie which SCSI controller/network/... cards
you have to get a minimal install is _more_ when you are doing FTP (you need
a network).
Out of around 300+ installs of FreeBSD I've done over the
Sorry for my basic knownledge about freebsd hacking and english language.
Problem: i need to use an internal PCI modem, 56k.
I found USR (NO winmodem) pci 56k but it were not right detect by freebsd.
test# uname -rs
FreeBSD 5.2-RC1
I add all his id in:
src/sys/dev/puc/pucdata.c
On 2004.01.08 21:39:07 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:
: and the Copyright page has that plus a similar claim for
: FreeBSD, Inc. (For 2004, even.)
That should be changed.
To? I have noticed FreeBSD,
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:29:34 +
Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The three main showstoppers for moving FreeBSD to subversion would be:
[...]
2. Support for $FreeBSD$ - user-specified keywords are not supported
and won't be until after svn-1.0 by the looks of things.
subversion
Hello, Doug!
Thursday, January 8, 2004, 8:29:34 PM, you wrote:
DR 3. Converting the repository. This is a tricky one - I tried the
DRcurrent version of the migration scripts and they barfed and died
DRpretty quickly. Still, I'm pretty sure that the svn developers
DRare planning to fix
Robert Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
i do not think that the order of the parameters
have any influence on the result.
No, but the filename has to be right after the f. The following
commands work, and both have the same result:
In this
On Friday 09 January 2004 11:27, Robert Klein wrote:
On Freitag, 9. Januar 2004 10:33, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
Lukas Ertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
tar xvjf
i do not think that the order of the parameters
have
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Markus Brueffer wrote:
MBOn Friday 09 January 2004 11:27, Robert Klein wrote:
MB On Freitag, 9. Januar 2004 10:33, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
MB Lukas Ertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MB On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
MBtar xvfj file.tar.bz2
MB
MB tar xvjf
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
Hello, Doug!
Thursday, January 8, 2004, 8:29:34 PM, you wrote:
DR 3. Converting the repository. This is a tricky one - I tried the
DRcurrent version of the migration scripts and they barfed and died
DRpretty quickly. Still, I'm pretty sure
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ryan Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Something like this might also jeopardize the
: project's not for profit status.
The project is not a legally incorporated entity at this time, and
never has been in the past.
And yet the Legal page carries a
Leo Bicknell wrote:
I'm going to propose a different solution that was brought up about
two years ago (although I can't find it now).
You start with something like the CD boot image mentioned, that is
a 3-5 Meg iso image that basically contains what is now on the
floppies (perhaps with a
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:
:
: And yet the Legal page carries a claim of copyright for The FreeBSD
: Project
It is a psudonymous work by The FreeBSD Project.
Are you saying that The
YACINE GHANJAOUI writes:
Anyone help me how to untar a file with this extention file.tar.bz2 ?
Thanks,
This is really questions@ material, but...
$ tar -y
M
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:29:34 +
Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The three main showstoppers for moving FreeBSD to subversion would be:
[...]
2. Support for $FreeBSD$ - user-specified keywords are not supported
and won't be
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:
: M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:
: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:
: :
: : And yet the Legal page carries a claim of copyright for
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon L. Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On 2004.01.08 21:39:07 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:
:
: : and the Copyright page has that plus a similar claim for
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) writes:
: 2) use pciconf -l (or direct access to /dev/pci) to retrieve the PCI
:IDs of unclaimed devices, look them up in a list of supported PCI
:devices, and load the appropriate module.
There's some
Hello, Narvi!
Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:28:57 PM, you wrote:
DR 3. Converting the repository. This is a tricky one - I tried the
DRcurrent version of the migration scripts and they barfed and died
DRpretty quickly. Still, I'm pretty sure that the svn developers
DRare planning to
This particular card is a controllerless modem (ie. it is a winmodem),
and has no UART.
Seeya...Q
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 21:33, Cristiano Deana wrote:
Sorry for my basic knownledge about freebsd hacking and english language.
Problem: i need to use an internal PCI modem, 56k.
I found USR (NO
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) writes:
: 2) use pciconf -l (or direct access to /dev/pci) to retrieve the PCI
:IDs of unclaimed devices, look them up in a list of supported PCI
:devices, and load the appropriate module.
There's some
Hi,
when trying to intercept UDP packet after changing the protocol number
from 17 to a user one (99) in the ip_input.c file. when trying to
regenrate the packet after inserting some bit errors an error message
appears in the reciever telling that The udp checksum is incorrect even if
i just
There are several documents linked off of http://www.freebsd.org/releng
that describe how to build a release. It's not nearly as arcane of a
process as it used to be 5 years ago. The biggest barrier to entry is
probably disk space. You'll need a good 5GB free to hold the CVS repo,
On Freitag, 9. Januar 2004 14:04, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
Robert Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
have you noticed that i am _not_ using the '-'?
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2 -
if you leave the '-' away then tar does not care
about the order of the parameters.
when you are using the dash before the
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Doug Rabson wrote:
I've been re-evaluating the current subversion over the last couple of
weeks and its holding up pretty well so far. It still misses the
repeated merge thing that p4 does so well but in practice, merging
does seem to be a lot easier than with CVS due to
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
Hello, Narvi!
Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:28:57 PM, you wrote:
DR 3. Converting the repository. This is a tricky one - I tried the
DRcurrent version of the migration scripts and they barfed and died
DRpretty quickly. Still, I'm pretty
I previously posted this on -fs but got no responce so I'm trying -hackers.
Building a box thats going to house many billions of small files. Think
innd circa 1998 or someone trying to house AOLs mail system on cyrus or
something. To this end I've hung a 3.3TB hardware raid off a BSD box
broken
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Diomidis Spinellis wrote:
I presume the above means a PXE *client*. This would be cool, but by no
means trivial. I looked at this in the past when I wanted to network
boot FreeBSD on a couple of machines that did not support a boot ROM and
reached a dead end; I ended up
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whatever. I've consulted lawyers on this who assure me that it is
legal. You've admitted to not knowing US Copyright law and are aguing
emotion, which is why I didn't reply to the rest of your
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:50:59PM -0800 I heard the voice of
Avleen Vig, and lo! it spake thus:
While it is indeed true that most machines since 1997 will support this
CD format, please take in to account:
And, further, some of us
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 04:38:11PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) writes:
: 2) use pciconf -l (or direct access to /dev/pci) to retrieve the PCI
:IDs of unclaimed devices, look them up in a list of supported
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
Here's the question perhaps more appropriate for hackers@:
I looked into ripping the ascii-art out, but am quite scared. However,
forth looks like it's an interesting (love/hate kind of thing) language,
and I'd like to get my hands on it. Can anyone recommend good (or just
Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The (conceptually) simplest approach would be for all drivers to
advertise the PCI IDs that they can support (together with a priority)
in a manner that would allow such a list to be generated automatically.
yes, we need something like
struct
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 08:30:17PM -0800, Avleen Vig wrote:
A simple website which lets you choose what drivers you want (anyone
seen the .muttrc config page? :)
That should be really easy to do with a little perl CGI.
I might take a crack at this in the next week or so.
FWIW, Plan-9 (
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:52:08AM +0100, Daniel Lang wrote:
Matthew D. Fuller wrote on Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 01:58:11AM -0600:
[..]
And, further, some of us don't have (and don't want) CD burners, and even
if we had 'em, don't want to burn (no pun intended ;) a CD blank just to
install an OS,
Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Keep in mind that older systems probably won't boot over the network
without a netboot ROM or similar. The netboot ROM images are (or
were) in the distribution but aren't much use without an EPROM
burner.
I believe that in most cases you can dd the ROM
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The (conceptually) simplest approach would be for all drivers to
advertise the PCI IDs that they can support (together with a priority)
in a manner that would allow such a list to be generated automatically.
yes, we need
Julian Elischer wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:50:59PM -0800 I heard the voice of
Avleen Vig, and lo! it spake thus:
While it is indeed true that most machines since 1997 will support this
CD format, please take in to account:
And, further, some
Hi, re the question from Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 9 Jan 2004:
forth looks like it's an interesting .. language.
Can anyone recommend good (or just
any, really) introductory material?
---
If you do want to get into Forth, you can probably find
some of the following in a
Narvi wrote:
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whatever. I've consulted lawyers on this who assure me that it is
legal. You've admitted to not knowing US Copyright law and are aguing
emotion, which is why I didn't reply to the rest of your message.
It is not clear that
This is getting stupid!
This discussion is just like when the i386 support was removed from the
GENERIC kernel, a lot of noise about old systems that wouldn't be able
to run (or benefit) from FreeBSD 5 anyway.
And, further, some of us don't have (and don't want) CD burners, and even
if we had
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for current@,
the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing, so sorry for
the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I bet this won't solicit many
replies :).
I dislike the boot menu in CURRENT, and would prefer something that
*
In the last episode (Jan 09), Roman Neuhauser said:
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for
current@, the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing,
so sorry for the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I bet this won't
solicit many replies :).
I dislike the
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Scott Long wrote:
Julian Elischer wrote:
Here at Vicor, we have over a thousand machines spread over about
20 sites. About 10 of those machines have cdrom drives. Our plans call
for moving from 4.x to 5.x, probably at the end of 2004, maybe early
2005.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Martin Nilsson wrote:
This is getting stupid!
Here at Vicor, we have over a thousand machines spread over about
20 sites. About 10 of those machines have cdrom drives. Our plans call
for moving from 4.x to 5.x, probably at the end of 2004, maybe early
2005.
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 10:57:56PM +0100, Martin Nilsson wrote:
This discussion is just like when the i386 support was removed from the
GENERIC kernel, a lot of noise about old systems that wouldn't be able
to run (or benefit) from FreeBSD 5 anyway.
No, this is nothing like that.
And,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Matt Freitag wrote:
Narvi wrote:
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whatever. I've consulted lawyers on this who assure me that it is
legal. You've admitted to not knowing US Copyright law and are aguing
emotion, which is why I didn't reply to the rest of
Markus Brueffer wondered why:
tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
is not the same as
tar -xvfj file.tar.bz2
What I'm asking me, is why the - makes a difference, though I haven't looked
at the sources, yet. The manpage states, that the - is only optional, so
tar -jxfv and tar jxvf should be equivalent,
Hi hackers,
I have to develop small server which has to manage custom microcontroller via
parallel port interface.
Does anyone know good manual/documentation about UNIX / BSD parallel port
programming ?
Thanks in advance!
Vladimir
Sorry to jump in the conversation so late, and without reading the
entire thread to date, but has anyone considered tla as an scm, it
handles merging and branching much more sanely than cvs or svn, not to
mention the benefits of distributed development and the dumb server
model. and there are
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whatever. I've consulted lawyers on this who assure me that it is
legal. You've admitted to not knowing US Copyright law and are aguing
emotion, which is why I didn't reply to the rest of your message.
You obviously don't want to discuss this, and
Quoting Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Matthew Dillon wrote:
interdisciplinary people left in the project. The SMP interactions
that John mentions are not trivial... they would challenge *ME* and
regardless of what people think about my social mores I think most
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:23:58PM -0700 I heard the voice of
Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus:
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
yes, we need something like
struct pci_device_info {
uint32_tpciid;
charbrand[64];
charmodel[64];
}
Narvi wrote:
We can all be glad that it hasn't mattered and might never matter that
the FreeBSD IP situation is so shabby, I suppose because it sends the
message that it's all essentially a Gentlemen's Agreement, with only a
few violators who are more-or-less tolerated.
It is not
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
Narvi wrote:
We can all be glad that it hasn't mattered and might never matter that
the FreeBSD IP situation is so shabby, I suppose because it sends the
message that it's all essentially a Gentlemen's Agreement, with only a
few violators
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Doug Rabson wrote:
DR I've been re-evaluating the current subversion over the last couple of
DR weeks and its holding up pretty well so far. It still misses the
DR repeated merge thing that p4 does so well but in practice, merging does
DR seem to be a lot easier than with CVS
I go through the love/why am I spending my time learning an obscure
language kind of relationship. :)
If you want to buy books, good ones are:
http://www.forth.com/Content/Handbook/Handbook.html
http://www.forth.com/Content/fat/fat.html
You can get PDF versions if you download the trial version
Scott Long wrote:
All,
Every FreeBSD release cycle in the past year has hit bumps due to install
floppy problems. This is becoming more and more of a burden on the
Release Engineering Team, as we simply do not have the resources to
constantly battle the floppies.
FreeBSD/i386 is the only port
On 2004-01-09 11:38 -0600, Sean Farley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I admit to having not tried it, but I wonder how well OpenCM
(http://www.opencm.org/) would compare. I think it would have a smaller
footprint than Subversion.
I have prepared a port of OpenCM, but didn't have time to test it,
Richard Coleman wrote:
Scott Long wrote:
All,
Every FreeBSD release cycle in the past year has hit bumps due to install
floppy problems. This is becoming more and more of a burden on the
Release Engineering Team, as we simply do not have the resources to
constantly battle the floppies.
Somewhere around Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 17:11 , the world stopped
and listened as [EMAIL PROTECTED] graced us with
this profound tidbit of wisdom that would fulfill the enjoyment of
future generations:
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On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:08:08PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
PXE boot against an automated backup/restore service would be much more
useful for this.
Assuming they have PXE and a supported card..
One point that hasn't been made here against PXE (well, not against it,
but not in favour
This is driving me insane...
I would like to provide a client with a .o file so that he can link
static against my library. Unfortunatly I need to hide nearly all
the symbols in my object file.
For a shared object this works out super easy, all I do is generate
the .so file, then run strip -N
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Michel TALON wrote:
And, further, some of us don't have (and don't want) CD burners, and even
if we had 'em, don't want to burn (no pun intended ;) a CD blank just to
install an OS, when we can just (re-)use 2 floppies and do it across the
LAN from a local FTP mirror,
Hi;
There is a comparison here:
http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html
I think there are compelling reasons to try subversion, but we have to wait for
a 1.0 Release, and this would be something that should be done gradually.. for
example moving the ports tree first.
cheers,
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for current@,
the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing, so sorry for
the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I bet this won't solicit many
replies :).
I dislike the boot menu in CURRENT, and would prefer
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2004-01-09 15:32:35 -0700:
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for current@,
the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing, so sorry for
the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I bet this won't solicit many
replies
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2004-01-09 15:32:35 -0700:
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for current@,
the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing, so sorry for
the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I bet this won't
Scott Long wrote:
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2004-01-09 15:32:35 -0700:
Roman Neuhauser wrote:
I have two related questions, one being more appropriate for current@,
the other for hackers@, but they're quite the same thing, so sorry for
the cross-post, I hope it's tolerable (I
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rahul Siddharthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: As for the copyright (C) the FreeBSD project bit: As I understand,
: editors/publishers who compile anthologies can claim copyright on the
: anthologies (the act of anthologisation itself being a creative
:
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 04:26:54PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:23:58PM -0700 I heard the voice of
Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus:
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
yes, we need something like
struct pci_device_info {
uint32_tpciid;
char
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