Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Brian Somers
I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement width limitations, and any time I've seen people

tree doesnt compile

2009-08-25 Thread Marc Balmer
/usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c: In function 'vesa_set_mode': /usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c:1117: error: duplicate case value anyone seeing this as well or is this a local f***up ? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org

Re: tree doesnt compile

2009-08-25 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 25.08.2009 um 13:23 schrieb Marc Balmer: /usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c: In function 'vesa_set_mode': /usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c:1117: error: duplicate case value anyone seeing this as well or is this a local f***up ? fwiw, problem is still there

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 03:40:54AM -0700, Brian Somers wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ed Schouten
* Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 15:44:47 Ed Schouten wrote: * Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be

Re: tree doesnt compile

2009-08-25 Thread Ed Schouten
* Marc Balmer m...@msys.ch wrote: Am 25.08.2009 um 13:23 schrieb Marc Balmer: /usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c: In function 'vesa_set_mode': /usr/src/sys/modules/vesa/../../i386/isa/vesa.c:1117: error: duplicate case value anyone seeing this as well or is this a local

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Ed Schouten napisa: * Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ed Schouten
* Adrian Penisoara a...@freebsd.ady.ro wrote: Maybe we should also think about compatibility with System V Unix / Linux -- I have encountered quite a lot of scripts expecting ps -ef to give an all processes output. It would not hurt to review what the Linux folks did with their ps(1) -- it

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Adrian Penisoara
Hi, On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Ivan Radovanovic riv...@gmail.com wrote: Ed Schouten napisa: * Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Tim Kientzle
Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 15:44:47 Ed Schouten wrote: * Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Frank Mayhar
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:48 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 15:44:47 Ed Schouten wrote: * Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing

GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
I have become to own Gigabyte GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=MotherboardProductID=3004ProductName=GA-MA780G-UD3H It is based on AMD 780G + SB700. BTW, CPU I am using is Athlon II X2 250. Sorry for the broadcast

AMD SB700 watchdog driver?

2009-08-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
Anybody has any code for AMD SB700 watchdog driver? I see that there is none in FreeBSD and I'd like to write one. So I could re-use anything that you have for a faster start. In any case, I expect the driver to be rather simple. -- Andriy Gapon ___

AMD SB700 SMBus controller driver

2009-08-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
According to SB700 specifications its SMBus controller is very similar to one in PIIX4. The differences that I see so far: 1. Interrupt Line/Interrupt Pin PCI configuration registers (0x3c, 0x3d) do not specify interrupt number that the controller could use: This register specifies which

GA-MA780G-UD3H hardware monitoring

2009-08-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
Does anybody know if Gigabyte provides special ACPI interfaces for HWM on their motherboards? Maybe something like ASUS does (acpi_aiboost)? Or do they access HWM chip directly? They have this EasyTune software, so they must be doing something. DSDT of GA-MA780G-UD3H doesn't even provide TZ.

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Julian Elischer
Brian Somers wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement width limitations, and any

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Doug Barton
Brian Somers wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement width limitations, and

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Doug Barton napisa: Brian Somers wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Doug Barton
Ivan Radovanovic wrote: So, if the developer is presented with a task of developing utility to list running processes on the machine the right way to solve this problem is to implement it exactly the way the ps is implemented (ie, to please some aesthetic criteria (ie to format output to some

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Doug Barton napisa: If you're developing your own app to display running processes implement it any way you wish. That's totally unrelated to the question at hand. Doug I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best way it could be done.

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Doug Barton
Ivan Radovanovic wrote: Doug Barton napisa: If you're developing your own app to display running processes implement it any way you wish. That's totally unrelated to the question at hand. Doug I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Meanwhile, if you interested in any information about this motherboard - data dumps, outputs from tools, etc - please let me know, I will try my best to provide that. it would be interesting to see a dmesg as a starting point. Sam Fourman Jr. ___

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Doug Barton napisa: Ivan Radovanovic wrote: I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best way it could be done. This argument is so non-sequitur that I'm tempted not to respond, but no, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Robert Noland
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 21:27 +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Sam Fourman Jr. a écrit : Meanwhile, if you interested in any information about this motherboard - data dumps, outputs from tools, etc - please let me know, I will try my best to provide that. it

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Ivan (Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:02:56 +0200) * | Feel free to take a crack at this and send the results to the list for | review. Improving the documentation is always a worthy goal. | | I would do that for sure if everyone thinks this ps behavior is | something that should be kept

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 4:02:56 pm Ivan Radovanovic wrote: Doug Barton napisa: Ivan Radovanovic wrote: I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best way it could be done. This argument is so non-sequitur that I'm tempted not to

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Rick C. Petty
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 04:09:09PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: I usually want to see ps(1) output in easily-read columns. Without width limits, this can't be guaranteed. I would strongly object to the complete removal of any option to limit the output width of ps(1) and make it easily

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Sam Fourman Jr. a écrit : Meanwhile, if you interested in any information about this motherboard - data dumps, outputs from tools, etc - please let me know, I will try my best to provide that. it would be interesting to see a dmesg as a starting point. here you

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Robert Noland a écrit : On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 21:27 +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Sam Fourman Jr. a écrit : Meanwhile, if you interested in any information about this motherboard - data dumps, outputs from tools, etc - please let me

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Robert Noland
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 22:14 +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Robert Noland a écrit : On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 21:27 +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Sam Fourman Jr. a écrit : Meanwhile, if you interested in any information about this

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Alex Goncharov napisa: ,--- You/Ivan (Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:02:56 +0200) * | Feel free to take a crack at this and send the results to the list for | review. Improving the documentation is always a worthy goal. | | I would do that for sure if everyone thinks this ps behavior is |

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org wrote: I have become to own Gigabyte GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=MotherboardProductID=3004ProductName=GA-MA780G-UD3H It is based on AMD 780G + SB700.

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Bernt Hansson
Andriy Gapon said the following on 2009-08-25 18:35: I have become to own Gigabyte GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=MotherboardProductID=3004ProductName=GA-MA780G-UD3H It is based on AMD 780G + SB700. BTW, CPU I am using is

Re: AMD SB700 SMBus controller driver

2009-08-25 Thread Aur�lien M�r�
Could you please forward me the patch to make it work in polling mode ? I'd like to test it as I've been trying to make intpm work with a SB400 (which should be quite the same as yours) but system hangs when I try to force polling mode (didn't have the specs nor all the differences you just

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Julian Elischer
Ivan Radovanovic wrote: Doug Barton napisa: Ivan Radovanovic wrote: I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best way it could be done. This argument is so non-sequitur that I'm tempted not to respond, but no, that's not what I'm saying

Re: GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard

2009-08-25 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Tuesday 25 August 2009, Bernt Hansson a écrit : Andriy Gapon said the following on 2009-08-25 18:35: I have become to own Gigabyte GA-MA780G-UD3H motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassV alue=MotherboardProductID=3004ProductName=GA-MA780G-UD3H

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-25 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 11:50 AM -0700 8/25/09, Doug Barton wrote: Brian Somers wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to