Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Brian Somers
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:40:54 -0700 Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Julian Elischer
Brian Somers wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:40:54 -0700 Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org wrote: I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Brian Somers br...@freebsd.org writes: To clarify, my proposal is to silently ignore the -w switch (any/all of them) and to remove the code that reads the terminal width and truncates some columns based on the result (or based on 132). The pros: - ps's code becomes simpler. It was

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:40:09PM -0700 I heard the voice of Brian Somers, and lo! it spake thus: I think this is a shame as I find the pros more compelling than the cons, and I'm sure there are more than a few supporters out there on hackers@ that will stay silent. FWIW, I'm in favor of at

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Dag-Erling Smørgrav napisa: Actually, ls does pretty much the same thing (use a different layout when run on a tty), and it's far from the only Unix utility to do so. Usually, the tty layout is pretty while the non-tty layout is easier to work with in scripts. Actually ls doesn't work the

Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch

2009-08-27 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Matthew D. Fuller fulle...@over-yonder.net writes: FWIW, I'm in favor of at least carefully examining whether the cons really disqualify the change. They do. Breaking scripts is not acceptable under any circumstances. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no

Re: enable ECC in OS code?

2009-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 27 August 2009 am 06:53:36 Steve Watt wrote: In 4a954a35.4030...@icyb.net.ua, a...@icyb.net.ua wrote: Assuming that ECC data lanes are connected between the two on motherboard, and given that BIOS doesn't perform any ECC setup (nor there is any option to control that) - would it be

Re: enable ECC in OS code?

2009-08-27 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:30:15AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: how should it be done at OS level at all when the OS is loaded into RAM? Copy the kernel to the video RAM, jump to it, enable ECC, copy back. Joerg ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org

Re: enable ECC in OS code?

2009-08-27 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de writes: Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg writes: how should it be done at OS level at all when the OS is loaded into RAM? Copy the kernel to the video RAM, jump to it, enable ECC, copy back. Not just the kernel - you have to copy all the memory

Re: MBR hack for serial console

2009-08-27 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 5:07:16 pm remodeler wrote: I am hoping for input on a patch I want to apply to the MBR of a FreeBSD 8-BETA3 AMD64 server. I need a serial console on this server. The ASUS motherboard (amibios) has PCI and PCI-e expansion slots, and a Moschip MCS9820 UART (serial

Re: enable ECC in OS code?

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Watt
In 200908271130.18073.er...@apsara.com.sg, er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: Hi, On 27 August 2009 am 06:53:36 Steve Watt wrote: In 4a954a35.4030...@icyb.net.ua, a...@icyb.net.ua wrote: Assuming that ECC data lanes are connected between the two on motherboard, and given that BIOS doesn't perform any

Re: Intermittent system hangs on 7.2-RELEASE-p1

2009-08-27 Thread Linda Messerschmidt
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:42 PM, John Baldwinj...@freebsd.org wrote: One thing to note is that ktrace only logs voluntary context switches (i.e. call to tsleep or waiting on a condition variable). It specifically does not log preemptions or blocking on a mutex, I was not aware, thanks. so

Re: Intermittent system hangs on 7.2-RELEASE-p1

2009-08-27 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 04:14:39PM -0400, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:42 PM, John Baldwinj...@freebsd.org wrote: One thing to note is that ktrace only logs voluntary context switches (i.e. call to tsleep or waiting on a condition variable). It specifically does