Re: Onstream?
It seems Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. The same thing happened on the IDE side of things. Even with Soren's hacks, I never could get it to work well. It worked as well as one would expect a win-tape drive to work :-. I have one of these beasts if someone wants it. I got it from the onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont). I tried to help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was extremely low. That drive is a joke, I'd never recommend it for data you care for.. However I still have it on my TODO list, it just keeps getting pushed further and further down on it... The ATAPI version is somewhat supported, ie you can access it, but there are no filemarks (the drive doesn't support that) and there is no handling of media errors (the drive doesn't support that either). Other than that it can be used :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Alan Batie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've checked the archives because it don't work. Depends on the drive. If you got an Echo drive (SCxx), you're right. The ADR drives--yes, they all use ADR tape technology, but confusingly there's also a model line called "ADR"--on the other hand, are ordinary SCSI drives, according to the OnStream representative I talked to at CeBIT. For instance, they're certified to work with the plain Linux SCSI tape driver. A few days ago I asked whether anybody's running an ADR50 successfully off a FreeBSD box but received no response. Actually I'm not sure the ADR50 is in the stores yet. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Onstream?
I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've checked the archives because it don't work. I see that 6+ months ago there was some talk about working on it eventually and I thought I'd see if anything came of that? Is there work being done or should I just send it back? It would be a real shame as for the capacity (25G) it's far cheaper than anything else. Looks like they've taken a Travan cartridge and made it a lot bigger to hold more tape. -- Alan Batie __www.rdrop.com/users/batie Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]\/www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A\ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ www.anti-spam.net NO SPAM! PGP signature
Re: Onstream?
I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. However, somebody has contacted me about doing the work, but it'll be quite some time before it would be supported. On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Alan Batie wrote: I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've checked the archives because it don't work. I see that 6+ months ago there was some talk about working on it eventually and I thought I'd see if anything came of that? Is there work being done or should I just send it back? It would be a real shame as for the capacity (25G) it's far cheaper than anything else. Looks like they've taken a Travan cartridge and made it a lot bigger to hold more tape. -- Alan Batie __www.rdrop.com/users/batie Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]\/www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A\ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ www.anti-spam.net NO SPAM! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. The same thing happened on the IDE side of things. Even with Soren's hacks, I never could get it to work well. It worked as well as one would expect a win-tape drive to work :-. I have one of these beasts if someone wants it. I got it from the onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont). I tried to help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was extremely low. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Ditto here. What happened with me on this is that I looked at the amount of fooling around it would take, then heard they'd do a "real" SCSI i/f in the next 6 months, and so dropped the ball. I have one also, which I can let someone have. On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. The same thing happened on the IDE side of things. Even with Soren's hacks, I never could get it to work well. It worked as well as one would expect a win-tape drive to work :-. I have one of these beasts if someone wants it. I got it from the onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont). I tried to help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was extremely low. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. I'd like to take it over, but I'm up to my ears right now. I barely have time left to get in some sailing. If they're still up for grabs in a month maybe I'll take it. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Warner Losh wrote: In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. I'd like to take it over, but I'm up to my ears right now. I barely have time left to get in some sailing. If they're still up for grabs in a month maybe I'll take it. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release the specs. I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. I thought Soren was doing it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release the specs. I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. I thought Soren was doing it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Oh- to give my status for the SCSI version: I lost time because the day and ahlf I had allocated to actually work on this got blown away by -current instabilities. I'll try and get another shot at it Sunday (*my* work schedule is such that right now that I don't have an employer I can stick this work for.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message pine.bsf.4.05.9908180849090.79233-100...@semuta.feral.com Matthew Jacob writes: : Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release : the specs. Same here... Just pointing out that OnStream is being cooperative. : I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm : looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take : over for me. : : I thought Soren was doing it... He is, but since I also have hardware and docs to contribute to the effort and since I didn't have time, I thought I'd not horde the hardware if there was someone out there that did have the time and would be willing and able to help out. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 12:47:30PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote: Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)? Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI end too... Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I have considerable motivation to help, when it becomes possible for me to do so. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes: : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take over for me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 12:47:30PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote: Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)? Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI end too... Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? I have considerable motivation to help, when it becomes possible for me to do so. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications ch...@netmonger.neti...@netmonger.nethttp://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
Release and development of this driver has been delayed. It has been impossible to get a stable -current platform to work with each time I've tried to update my working -current tree over the last two weeks. I guess I've picked the wrong days to update... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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Release and development of this driver has been delayed. It has been impossible to get a stable -current platform to work with each time I've tried to update my working -current tree over the last two weeks. I guess I've picked the wrong days to update... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote: Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)? Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI end too... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Onstream?
Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)? Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: v...@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include std/disclaimers.h TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com == To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Onstream?
It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote: Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)? Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI end too... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message