Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew 
Jacob writes:
 : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO.
 
 The same thing happened on the IDE side of things.  Even with Soren's
 hacks, I never could get it to work well.  It worked as well as one
 would expect a win-tape drive to work :-.
 
 I have one of these beasts if someone wants it.  I got it from the
 onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont).  I tried to
 help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was
 extremely low.

That drive is a joke, I'd never recommend it for data you care for..

However I still have it on my TODO list, it just keeps getting
pushed further and further down on it...

The ATAPI version is somewhat supported, ie you can access it, but 
there are no filemarks (the drive doesn't support that) and there 
is no handling of media errors (the drive doesn't support that either).
Other than that it can be used :)

-Søren


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Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Christian Weisgerber

Alan Batie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've
 checked the archives because it don't work.

Depends on the drive. If you got an Echo drive (SCxx), you're right.
The ADR drives--yes, they all use ADR tape technology, but confusingly
there's also a model line called "ADR"--on the other hand, are
ordinary SCSI drives, according to the OnStream representative I
talked to at CeBIT. For instance, they're certified to work with
the plain Linux SCSI tape driver.

A few days ago I asked whether anybody's running an ADR50 successfully
off a FreeBSD box but received no response. Actually I'm not sure
the ADR50 is in the stores yet.

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Onstream?

2000-03-04 Thread Alan Batie

I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've
checked the archives because it don't work.  I see that 6+ months ago
there was some talk about working on it eventually and I thought I'd
see if anything came of that?  Is there work being done or should I
just send it back?  It would be a real shame as for the capacity (25G)
it's far cheaper than anything else.  Looks like they've taken a
Travan cartridge and made it a lot bigger to hold more tape.

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Re: Onstream?

2000-03-04 Thread Matthew Jacob


I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO.

However, somebody has contacted me about doing the work, but it'll be quite
some time before it would be supported.

On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Alan Batie wrote:

 I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've
 checked the archives because it don't work.  I see that 6+ months ago
 there was some talk about working on it eventually and I thought I'd
 see if anything came of that?  Is there work being done or should I
 just send it back?  It would be a real shame as for the capacity (25G)
 it's far cheaper than anything else.  Looks like they've taken a
 Travan cartridge and made it a lot bigger to hold more tape.
 
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Re: Onstream?

2000-03-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob 
writes:
: I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO.

The same thing happened on the IDE side of things.  Even with Soren's
hacks, I never could get it to work well.  It worked as well as one
would expect a win-tape drive to work :-.

I have one of these beasts if someone wants it.  I got it from the
onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont).  I tried to
help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was
extremely low.

Warner


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Re: Onstream?

2000-03-04 Thread Matthew Jacob


Ditto here. What happened with me on this is that I looked at the amount of
fooling around it would take, then heard they'd do a "real" SCSI i/f in the
next 6 months, and so dropped the ball.

I have one also, which I can let someone have.

On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew 
Jacob writes:
 : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO.
 
 The same thing happened on the IDE side of things.  Even with Soren's
 hacks, I never could get it to work well.  It worked as well as one
 would expect a win-tape drive to work :-.
 
 I have one of these beasts if someone wants it.  I got it from the
 onstream folks (they have an office here in Longmont).  I tried to
 help Soren out, but my tolerence for working in the project was
 extremely low.
 
 Warner
 



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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-19 Thread Wes Peters

Warner Losh wrote:
 
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes:
 : Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
 : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?
 
 I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...
 
 I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
 looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
 over for me.

I'd like to take it over, but I'm up to my ears right now.  I barely have
time left to get in some sailing.  If they're still up for grabs in a month
maybe I'll take it.

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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-19 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote:
 
 In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes:
 : Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
 : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?
 
 I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...
 
 I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
 looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
 over for me.

I'd like to take it over, but I'm up to my ears right now.  I barely have
time left to get in some sailing.  If they're still up for grabs in a month
maybe I'll take it.

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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Jacob



 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes:
 : Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
 : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?
 
 I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...

Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release
the specs.

 
 I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
 looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
 over for me.

I thought Soren was doing it...




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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes:
: Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
: going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?

I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...

I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
over for me.

Warner


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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Jacob


 In message 19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net Christopher Masto writes:
 : Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
 : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?
 
 I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...

Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release
the specs.

 
 I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
 looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
 over for me.

I thought Soren was doing it...




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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Jacob

Oh- to give my status for the SCSI version: I lost time because the day
and ahlf I had allocated to actually work on this got blown away by -current
instabilities. I'll try and get another shot at it Sunday (*my* work
schedule is such that right now that I don't have an employer I can stick
this work for.)





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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.bsf.4.05.9908180849090.79233-100...@semuta.feral.com Matthew 
Jacob writes:
: Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release
: the specs.

Same here...  Just pointing out that OnStream is being cooperative.

:  I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
:  looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
:  over for me.
: 
: I thought Soren was doing it...

He is, but since I also have hardware and docs to contribute to the
effort and since I didn't have time, I thought I'd not horde the
hardware if there was someone out there that did have the time and
would be willing and able to help out.

Warner



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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-17 Thread Christopher Masto

On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 12:47:30PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote:
 It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  
  Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for
  the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)?
 
 Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have
 no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI
 end too...

Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?

I have considerable motivation to help, when it becomes possible
for me to do so.
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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-17 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes:
: Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
: going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?

I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware...

I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project.  I'm
looking for someone with the kernel skills and track record to take
over for me.

Warner


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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-17 Thread Christopher Masto
On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 12:47:30PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote:
 It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  
  Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for
  the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)?
 
 Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have
 no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI
 end too...

Do they still not allow you to release the specs?  How is the code
going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release?

I have considerable motivation to help, when it becomes possible
for me to do so.
-- 
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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-14 Thread Matthew Jacob


Release and development of  this driver has been delayed. It has been
impossible to get a stable -current platform to work with each time I've
tried to update my working -current tree over the last two weeks. I guess
I've picked the wrong days to update...






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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-14 Thread Matthew Jacob

Release and development of  this driver has been delayed. It has been
impossible to get a stable -current platform to work with each time I've
tried to update my working -current tree over the last two weeks. I guess
I've picked the wrong days to update...






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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-04 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote:
 
 Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for
 the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)?

Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have
no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI
end too...


-Søren


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Onstream?

1999-08-04 Thread Vince Vielhaber

Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for
the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)?

Vince.
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Re: Onstream?

1999-08-04 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vince Vielhaber wrote:
 
 Out of curiousity, have there been any successes in the drivers for
 the OnStream tape drives (SCSI or IDE)?

Working on it (for IDE that is), support is planned for, but I have
no release date yet... I know that there is work done on the SCSI
end too...


-Søren


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