Robert Watson wrote on Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 07:12:23AM +:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and SMP
kernel into the release bits, and have
Arne Schwabe writes:
The emulation or whatever it was was set in the BIOS. And it worked
in the BIOS. Worked when the OS got up to sysinstall, too. Just
wouldn't work for the loader. Luckily, I didn't need to do anything
but wait for it to boot, but I figured the BIOS was
Kris Kennaway wrote on Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:35:47PM +1030:
Martin Cracauer wrote:
I tried to model different worklods. The parallel part of my
benchmark suite has CPU-heavy processes, short plain http, php, long
plain http and mixtures thereof.
None of these showed the SMP
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:57:58AM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
Perhaps a BIOS option. I've never encountered a system with USB
keyboard that did not work in the loader.
The emulation or whatever it was was set in the
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 02:15:52PM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
The loader groks it just fine when you choose the 'boot with USB
keyboard' boot menu option ;-)
How can I choose a menu
My wishes are:
- Get MIPS arch working (plenty of MIPS based SoC in the market)
- NUMA support (see what Solaris did or is doing),
- Fold IMUNES changes in to the FreeBSD tree,
- rwlocks (has this been done already?),
- DDB MP support
- Make ULE
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 02:15:52PM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
The loader groks it just fine when you choose the 'boot with USB
keyboard' boot menu option ;-)
How can I choose a menu option in the loader when the keyboard doesn't
work in the loader? :p
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 02:15:52PM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
The loader groks it just fine when you choose the 'boot with USB
keyboard' boot menu option ;-)
How can I choose a menu option in the loader when the keyboard
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:57:58AM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
Perhaps a BIOS option. I've never encountered a system with USB
keyboard that did not work in the loader.
The emulation or whatever it was was set in the BIOS. And it worked
in the BIOS.
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:57:58AM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
Perhaps a BIOS option. I've never encountered a system with USB
keyboard that did not work in the loader.
The emulation or whatever it was was set in the
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 01:28:23AM +1030 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
The emulation or whatever it was was set in the BIOS. And it
worked in the BIOS. Worked when the OS got up to sysinstall, too.
Just wouldn't work for the loader.
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:34:09PM -0800, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and
I'm missing the start of the thread, so perhaps I can just cut in here.
I'm to the point at home and work where I've got more USB keyboards than
PS2. It seems like even my old boxes support getting into the BIOS and
everything via USB keyboards... You all know where I'm going... Whenever
I
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 01:46:15PM -0500 I heard the voice of
Charles Sprickman, and lo! it spake thus:
In fact, I'm pretty sure 4.11 can be installed with a USB keyboard.
I may be imagining that though...
Well, I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine installing 6.0 last month with
a USB keyboard.
Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 01:46:15PM -0500 I heard the voice of
Charles Sprickman, and lo! it spake thus:
In fact, I'm pretty sure 4.11 can be installed with a USB keyboard.
I may be imagining that though...
Well, I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine installing 6.0
On 21 Dec 2005, at 16:01, Juhana Tahvanainen wrote:
how about:
FreeBSD-Handbook-General (guaranteed to work with all FreeBSD
systems, doesn't include stuff in FreeBSD-Handbook-BRANCH.x)
FreeBSD-Handbook-4.x (guaranteed to work with 4.x branch, doesn't
include stuff in
Martin Cracauer wrote:
I tried to model different worklods. The parallel part of my
benchmark suite has CPU-heavy processes, short plain http, php, long
plain http and mixtures thereof.
None of these showed the SMP kernel to be an overall disadvantage on a
one-processor system.
What you
i think you got this one wrong.
what FreeBSD-Handbook-General should include:
everything that spans through all FreeBSD releases i.e.
# rm -rf /
(that is guaranteed to work in all FreeBSD systems)
but if some future release stops supporting this, then its removed from
Kris Kennaway wrote on Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 03:01:09AM -0500:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:34:09PM -0800, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 16:51 +0100, Dirk GOUDERS wrote:
Yep, I really like this. The current mess is impossible to maintain
(and also impossible to read). Yesterday I tried to update the kernel
configuration chapter to cover 6.0, but I gave up since there are do
this for 4.X, do that for
By the way, I tried to search the archive (doc@) for a possible
earlier discussion of this subject but have a hard time to find proper
words to search for...
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2005-October/009027.html
Thanks! Well, seems as if some people's heads are
how about:
FreeBSD-Handbook-General (guaranteed to work with all FreeBSD systems,
doesn't include stuff in FreeBSD-Handbook-BRANCH.x)
FreeBSD-Handbook-4.x (guaranteed to work with 4.x branch, doesn't include
stuff in FreeBSD-Handbook-General)
FreeBSD-Handbook-5.x (guaranteed to work with
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 06:01:37PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Juhana Tahvanainen, and lo! it spake thus:
how about:
FreeBSD-Handbook-General is rather fixed once ready, only
maintenance needed is when some future release doesnt support
something anymore, that is removed and moved to
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 05:37:20AM -0500, Allen wrote:
On Saturday 17 December 2005 03:55, Christian Brueffer wrote:
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:55:00AM +, Allen wrote:
I know about the port tool, but what I'd love to have is a tool you
could run from the CLI or the GUI that would
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:34:23AM +0100, Dirk GOUDERS wrote:
3. Full review and update of the install docs, handbook, FAQ, etc.
There are sections that are embarrassingly out of date (one section of
the handbook apparently states that we only support a single brand of
wifi cards). A
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:22 +, Ceri Davies wrote:
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:34:23AM +0100, Dirk GOUDERS wrote:
3. Full review and update of the install docs, handbook, FAQ, etc.
There are sections that are embarrassingly out of date (one section of
the handbook apparently
This is exactly the idea that I have been pimping to anyone who will
listen for the last three months or so. I also think that it is
advantageous for users who are using, say 4.2, to be able to find
documentation for 4.2 without having to interpret a nest of if you have
4.x do this, if 5.0
Yep, I really like this. The current mess is impossible to maintain
(and also impossible to read). Yesterday I tried to update the kernel
configuration chapter to cover 6.0, but I gave up since there are do
this for 4.X, do that for 5.X, and maybe this too for 6.X everywhere.
Seems as if
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 03:46:53PM +0100, Joel Dahl wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:22 +, Ceri Davies wrote:
This is exactly the idea that I have been pimping to anyone who will
listen for the last three months or so. I also think that it is
advantageous for users who are using, say
3. Full review and update of the install docs, handbook, FAQ, etc.
There are sections that are embarrassingly out of date (one section of
the handbook apparently states that we only support a single brand of
wifi cards). A co-worker of mine tried to install 6.0 using just the
handbook
On Monday 19 December 2005 04:34, Dirk GOUDERS wrote:
3. Full review and update of the install docs, handbook, FAQ, etc.
There are sections that are embarrassingly out of date (one section of
the handbook apparently states that we only support a single brand of
wifi cards). A co-worker
On Monday 19 December 2005 04:34, Dirk GOUDERS wrote:
Well, I did not write the quoted text, but Scott Long did.
Dirk
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:42:51AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
SMP laptops are
right around the corner, and we should be ready to support SMP
out-of-the-box.
Already here - Alienware Aurora m7700 Athlon X2 dual-core.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:34:09PM -0800, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and SMP
kernel into the
On 12/17/2005 01:34:09 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP
kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and
SMP
kernel into the release bits, and have
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:55:00AM +, Allen wrote:
On 12/17/2005 01:34:09 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP
kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package
On Saturday 17 December 2005 03:55, Christian Brueffer wrote:
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:55:00AM +, Allen wrote:
On 12/17/2005 01:34:09 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP
Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
What about putting 1. and 3. on the new ideas page (marked as important and
including a deadline)? At least for 3. more eyes would be beneficial.
1. working
Scott Long wrote on Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:42:51AM -0700:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and SMP
kernel into the release bits, and have sysinstall install both. It
should also select
Hi, Scott,
On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
More-or-less OT question: Shall we switch ULE as the default scheduler
on -HEAD to encourage more testing against it?
Cheers,
--
Xin LI
Xin LI wrote:
Hi, Scott,
On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
More-or-less OT question: Shall we switch ULE as the default scheduler
on -HEAD to encourage more testing against it?
Scott Long wrote:
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
1. working kbdmux. We need this for the growing number of systems that
assume that USB is the primary keyboard. Current status appears to be
that the kbdmux driver breaks very
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:22:36AM +0800, Xin LI wrote:
Hi, Scott,
On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
More-or-less OT question: Shall we switch ULE as the default scheduler
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
2. SMP kernels for install. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for
performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and SMP
kernel into the release bits, and have sysinstall install both. It
should also
Guys,
With code freeze for 6.1 about 6 weeks away, I'd like to put out my
'wish list' for it:
1. working kbdmux. We need this for the growing number of systems that
assume that USB is the primary keyboard. Current status appears to be
that the kbdmux driver breaks very easily. We need
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