Re: [PATCH] Fix kenv(1) output in w/respect to new boot loader variables

2011-12-29 Thread Sergey Kandaurov
...@fisglobal.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 5:24 PM To: 'freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org' Cc: Garrett Cooper; devin.te...@fisglobal.com Subject: [PATCH] Fix kenv(1) output in w/respect to new boot loader variables Garrett Cooper and a few others have requested that I write a patch to fix

[PATCH] Fix kenv(1) output in w/respect to new boot loader variables

2011-12-27 Thread Devin Teske
Garrett Cooper and a few others have requested that I write a patch to fix a regression w/respect to kenv(1) output in FreeBSD-9.0 and HEAD. The issue is with the new boot loader menu. It adds many loader variables including ones that contain ANSI color escapes. Obviously, these ANSI codes don't

RE: [PATCH] Fix kenv(1) output in w/respect to new boot loader variables

2011-12-27 Thread Devin Teske
Subject: [PATCH] Fix kenv(1) output in w/respect to new boot loader variables Garrett Cooper and a few others have requested that I write a patch to fix a regression w/respect to kenv(1) output in FreeBSD-9.0 and HEAD. The issue is with the new boot loader menu. It adds many loader

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-19 Thread John Baldwin
loader (module_path was /boot/kernel.GENERIC;/boot/kernel;/boot/modules), so I think the new boot loader menus work fine in this regard. How exactly are you reproducing your broken case Doug? Do you have any settings in /boot/loader.conf or /boot/loader.conf.local? -- John Baldwin

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote: What release are you running? Recent HEAD -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :)

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Andrey Fesenko
Last Changed Rev: 224125 Not update share/examples/bootforth/* any files old version loader. file sys/boot/forth/loader.conf ## ### Loader settings

FW: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Teske, Devin
-Original Message- From: Devin Teske [mailto:dte...@vicor.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 4:45 PM To: 'Andrey Fesenko'; 'freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org' Cc: Julian Elischer; Teske, Devin (devin.te...@fisglobal.com) Subject: RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs? -Original Message

Re: FW: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be replaced by /boot/kernel.other. -- Nothin' ever doesn't change

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' Hmmm... The last change to the FICL word boot was 10 years, 9 months ago, by dcs in version 1.19 of sys/boot/forth/loader.4th

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
Hi Doug, On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be replaced by /boot

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700,

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30,

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 29, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.6

2011-05-19 Thread Devin Teske
Hi Hackers, I'm pleased to announce version 1.6 of my new boot loader menu software. NOTE: Version 1.6 has the same look and feel as version 1.5. No new screenshots needed. This is a general cleanup with the below notable changes: 1. Change chkpassword.4th to query password environment

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: My main idea is that the present Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 is a very good menu . Instead of destroying its elegant structure , the already available FreeBSD Boot Loader ( actually Kernel selection ) menu

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels Eh? Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: set kernel=kernel.old boot IMHO, it shows that you can tell the loader about kernels. Having a kernel-choice sub-menu would be

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels Eh?  Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: set kernel=kernel.old boot IMHO, it shows that you can

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a Boot kernel.old menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads everithing from /boot/kernel.old? Its difficult to handle manually in the loader (esp. handling

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a Boot kernel.old menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Devin Teske
On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger m...@reifenberger.com m...@reifenberger.com wrote: Hi, this looks very promising!

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-13 Thread Devin Teske
Happy to bring to you version 1.5 of my loader_menu package. This version incorporates the suggestions first made by Lan Qing and then re-affirmed by (in-order) Alexander Leidinger, Dieter BSD, and Julian Elischer (whom brings word from the devsummit as well as Warner Losh): you guys want to

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-13 Thread Devin Teske
: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 Happy to bring to you version 1.5 of my loader_menu package. This version incorporates the suggestions first made by Lan Qing and then re-affirmed by (in- order) Alexander Leidinger, Dieter BSD, and Julian Elischer (whom brings word from

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-12 Thread Devin Teske
On May 4, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Emanuel Haupt wrote: Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change dc_seconds to loader_delay) and a

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-12 Thread Warner Losh
On May 12, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Emanuel Haupt wrote: Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/12/11 2:14 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Emanuel Haupt wrote: Devin Teskedte...@vicor.com wrote: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-10 Thread Lars Engels
Kris Moore CC'ed On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 10:41:40AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: -Original Message- From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:19 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-09 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 01:20:43AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Hello fellow -hackers, I'm so very proud to offer the latest update to my new boot loader menu -- version 1.4 -- addressing ACPI detection, bringing it in-line with HEAD. It took some work and a few days, but I got it! Have

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-09 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:19 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4 On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 01:20:43AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Hello fellow -hackers

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 8 May 2011 13:45:55 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: On May 8, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Sun, 8 May 2011 10:48:55 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I would like to see general consensus from the community for separating the items

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-09 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 9 May 2011, Alexander Leidinger wrote: IMO it's either - change now or - no change, never ever or - change if special variable is set In case it hasn't already been suggested... Just make the loader read a template file that defines the menu. The port or base system can include a

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-08 Thread Devin Teske
: Hello fellow -hackers, I'm so very proud to offer the latest update to my new boot loader menu -- version 1.4 -- addressing ACPI detection, bringing it in-line with HEAD. It took some work and a few days, but I got it! Have a look below for six different displays (three different

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-08 Thread Devin Teske
On May 8, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Sun, 8 May 2011 10:48:55 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I would like to see general consensus from the community for separating the items before moving ahead with such a non-trivial change. IMO: - I agree that there

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-08 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 8 May 2011 10:48:55 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I would like to see general consensus from the community for separating the items before moving ahead with such a non-trivial change. IMO: - I agree that there are two different types of actions - having 2 distinct blocks

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-08 Thread Dieter BSD
There's really only room for one or two more menu items. Perhaps some items could be moved to a 2nd level menu? 1) boot multiuser mode ( default ) 2) boot single user mode 3) menu to set boot options 4) help Would be nice: a fix for having to lean on a key autorepeating for a couple seconds.

Re:[UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-07 Thread 兰清
, I'm so very proud to offer the latest update to my new boot loader menu -- version 1.4 -- addressing ACPI detection, bringing it in-line with HEAD. It took some work and a few days, but I got it! Have a look below for six different displays (three different scenarios -- i386 w/ ACPI, i386 w/o

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-06 Thread Warner Losh
On May 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Devin Teske wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Voras Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:00 AM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-06 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Warner Losh [mailto:i...@bsdimp.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:31 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'Ivan Voras'; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4 On May 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Devin Teske wrote

[UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-05 Thread Devin Teske
Hello fellow -hackers, I'm so very proud to offer the latest update to my new boot loader menu -- version 1.4 -- addressing ACPI detection, bringing it in-line with HEAD. It took some work and a few days, but I got it! Have a look below for six different displays (three different scenarios

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-05 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Devin Teske wrote: Running on i386-compatible hardware supporting ACPI: BW (standard): http://twitpic.com/4tlsin Color (loader_color=YES): http://twitpic.com/4tlt6l Looks nice. Options 3, 4, and 5 could be changed to 3. Safe Mode 4. Single User Mode 5. Verbose

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-05 Thread Ivan Voras
On 05/05/2011 15:40, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2011, Devin Teske wrote: Running on i386-compatible hardware supporting ACPI: BW (standard): http://twitpic.com/4tlsin Color (loader_color=YES): http://twitpic.com/4tlt6l Looks nice. Options 3, 4, and 5 could be changed to 3. Safe Mode

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4

2011-05-05 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Voras Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:00 AM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.4 On 05/05/2011 15:40, Warren

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-04 Thread Emanuel Haupt
Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change dc_seconds to loader_delay) and a couple other minor enhancements/fixes. I think that

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-04 Thread Devin Teske
On May 3, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:57:05PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: [...] loader_brand=... Selects the BSD brand to display. Valid values are fbsd (displays FreeBSD) and dbsd (displays DruidBSD). An invalid value (such

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-04 Thread Devin Teske
On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-04 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:38:07AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:57:05PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: [...] loader_brand=... Selects the BSD brand to display. Valid values are fbsd

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/5/3 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com: The previous loader behavior when an unknown key was pressed was to reset the delay to the autoboot_delay value. I wasn't aware of that functionality (I'd always pressed SPACE to pause the timer). Maybe a dumb question, but why would anybody want to

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-03 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/5/3 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change dc_seconds to loader_delay) and a couple other minor enhancements/fixes. I think that

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, May 02, 2011 8:48:31 pm Devin Teske wrote: This version (1.1) works nearly identically to the standard menu that ships with FreeBSD in that it detects whether ACPI is enabled (truth be told, I actually re-used the acpienabled? function verbatim from /boot/beastie.4th by Scott Long

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Devin Teske
On May 3, 2011, at 4:45 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 8:48:31 pm Devin Teske wrote: This version (1.1) works nearly identically to the standard menu that ships with FreeBSD in that it detects whether ACPI is enabled (truth be told, I actually re-used the acpienabled?

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:31:14 pm Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 4:45 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 8:48:31 pm Devin Teske wrote: This version (1.1) works nearly identically to the standard menu that ships with FreeBSD in that it detects whether ACPI is

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Devin Teske
From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:33 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Olivier SMEDTS Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:31:14 pm Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 4:45 AM

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:57:34 pm Devin Teske wrote: From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:33 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Olivier SMEDTS Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday, May 03, 2011

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:20 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:57:34 pm Devin Teske wrote: From: John

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:17:23 pm Devin Teske wrote: -Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:20 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:36 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:17:23 pm Devin Teske wrote: -Original

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:47:26 pm Devin Teske wrote: -Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:36 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:01 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:47:26 pm Devin Teske wrote: -Original

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:22:20 pm Devin Teske wrote: -Original Message- From: John Baldwin [mailto:j...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:01 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 On Tuesday

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-03 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:57:05PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: [...] loader_brand=... Selects the BSD brand to display. Valid values are fbsd (displays FreeBSD) and dbsd (displays DruidBSD). An invalid value (such as none) will disable the display of any brand. The

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-03 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically

[UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-02 Thread Devin Teske
NOTE: Apologies if this comes through multiple times. I'm having problems getting this e-mail to appear on the list. Hi again, fellow hackers, First, I'd like to thank all of you for the input and suggestions that you provided. Things are moving fast and nimble here. With over 1,000 lines of

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-02 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/5/2 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com: NOTE: Apologies if this comes through multiple times. I'm having problems getting this e-mail to appear on the list. Hi again, fellow hackers, First, I'd like to thank all of you for the input and suggestions that you provided. Things are moving

RE: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1

2011-05-02 Thread Devin Teske
...@freebsd.org; y...@freebsd.org; p...@freebsd.org; schenkev...@freebsd.org; meh...@freebsd.org; e...@freebsd.org; sanlit...@freebsd.org; d...@freebsd.org; robi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.1 2011/5/2 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com: NOTE: Apologies

[UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-02 Thread Devin Teske
Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change dc_seconds to loader_delay) and a couple other minor enhancements/fixes. I think that brings everything up to speed with the

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:55:12 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
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Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
[ attempt #2 - grumble - sorry about the blank message, hope it works this time - grumble- ] I hope that works for serial console.  VT100 may be a reasonable default in that case, but it would be good to make sure that menu works even on a dumb terminal. Perhaps we should put 'key' letter in

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dieter BSD Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:28 PM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu [ attempt #2 - grumble - sorry about

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in /boot/loader.conf Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) Putting brackets around letters (and numbers) sounds good. If there is room, perhaps add

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the FICL words available, but I don't recall if there was a way to crawl the object space of the items

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in /boot/loader.conf Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) The current behavior -- with what's in

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Would be nice: uname -v of the kernel it will boot. That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the FICL words available, but I don't

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warner Losh
Why not both? duck Warner On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosity or steps. I really appreciated the clean install via binary package. Well done. Only question I have is whether it's possible to use the Beastie ASCII image instead of the pointy-eared blob? The beastie.4th file is still present

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:08 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Hello fellow hackers

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosity or steps. I really

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] I'd like to revisit the numbers vs. letters for menu options. IIRC (and I may not), an earlier version used letters for the menu options, and

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:24 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: -Original Message

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com a écrit : -Original Message- From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Very nice and functional, without

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'FreeBSD Hackers' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: Olivier SMEDTS [mailto:oliv...@gid0.org] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:09 PM To: Devin Teske Cc: Freddie Cash; FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com a écrit : -Original

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I was thinking that what we ought to do is support *both* numbers *and* letters. Sounds good to me. I envision the menuitem numbers remaining unchanged (1-7), allowing those familiar with the numbers to use them.

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. ___

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. Agreed, that's a much more

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Artem Belevich
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the V in Verbose and S in Single User bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) Here's the download:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Eitan Adler
I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) Here's the download: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/loader_menu-1.0.tgz Painless installation - thanks! And upon your

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-24 Thread Devin Teske
Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures: http://devinteske.com/new-freebsd-boot-loader-menu Here's the download:

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-04-24 Thread Devin Teske
On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote: Would also be cool to have an option to boot something else (like e.g. memtest86). Maybe a special directory with loadable binaries and a special menu entry to select one of them. As surprising as this release is, I've actually got plans

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-29 Thread Bernd Walter
Boot-Loader Please note that graphical loaders are not very serial console friendly ;-) -- Andriy Gapon Amen, and we have a whole lot of platforms that are only serial consoles (and 9600 baud at that). Also, I like the letters instead of numbers for boot options, for those of us

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-29 Thread Alexander Best
Best Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader Please note that graphical loaders are not very serial console friendly ;-) -- Andriy Gapon Amen, and we have a whole lot of platforms that are only serial consoles (and 9600 baud at that). Also, I like the letters

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-29 Thread Arnaud Lacombe
Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader Please note that graphical loaders are not very serial console friendly ;-) -- Andriy Gapon Amen, and we have a whole lot of platforms that are only serial consoles (and 9600 baud at that). FWIW, an interesting thing, from my point of view, would be to get rid

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-28 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: And what if I need to boot into single user mode? I'll forgive the top-post, and I'll even forgive that you missed the below NOTE: The final release will have a

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-28 Thread Paul Schenkeveld
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 09:48:03PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Hi fellow hackers, I'm designing an open-sourced replacement boot-loader for FreeBSD. I feel that the existing options in the boot-loader menu today can be whittled down significantly with a stateful menu system rather than a

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-28 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Paul Schenkeveld free...@psconsult.nl wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 09:48:03PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: Hi fellow hackers, I'm designing an open-sourced replacement boot-loader for FreeBSD. I feel that the existing options in the boot-loader menu today can

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-28 Thread Alexander Best
On Sun Mar 27 11, Warner Losh wrote: On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Devin Teske wrote: Replacement Boot-Loader: twitpic.com/4e46ol NOTE: The final release will have a single-user mode option. This looks really cool. Nice to see a fresh look for the boot loader... sorry if we

Re: New Boot-Loader

2011-03-28 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 28/03/2011 14:08 Alexander Best said the following: sorry if we have different opinions on this matter, but i don't quite see the fresh look. imo a modern boot loader looks like this http://www.dailycupoftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/ubuntu01.png or this

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