Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-02 Thread Marty Leisner
Didn't they actually kinda do this when they announced the availability of Solaris source code, and then that didn't really seem to materialize the first time around? Maybe my recolection of events is somewhat blurred... I remember this (under the community source code license). But

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-02 Thread Marty Leisner
Didn't they actually kinda do this when they announced the availability of Solaris source code, and then that didn't really seem to materialize the first time around? Maybe my recolection of events is somewhat blurred... I remember this (under the community source code license). But

StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth
Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 04:53:42PM +0800, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth wrote: Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Nick Hibma
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 04:53:42PM +0800, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth wrote: Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Peter Wemm
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve some

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Marc Nicholas
Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve some leverage with the likes of (say) Microsoft. For example, "If we don't get [xxx] from you, we'll do something to hurt your cash cow, MS Office".. Maybe I'm just being too cynical though, but

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Christian Kuhtz
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 07:08:18AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: From a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make for some seriously bad press for Sun to state "open source" and then turn around and not do it? *raised eyebrow* Wouldn't cause them a second's pause. They wouldn't be the first

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heres what suns web page says: "Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage industry-wide

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Heres what suns web page says: "Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Hermit Hacker writes: : From a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make for some seriously bad press : for Sun to state "open source" and then turn around and not do it? *raised : eyebrow* Those who don't know about history are doomed to repeat it. Sun originally

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Wes Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heres what suns web page says: "Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage industry-wide collaboration on future

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Nate Williams
I have the feeling that "Software Licensing Program" speaks . You can read about the Sun Community Source License on their web site now. It is the same license that brings the JDK to FreeBSD. *NOT* As we read it (The JDK folks), the CSL doesn't allow us to release the JDK on FreeBSD,

StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth
Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 04:53:42PM +0800, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth wrote: Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Nick Hibma
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 04:53:42PM +0800, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth wrote: Now that Sun is apparently planning to give away the source to StarOffice, I wonder when the first port to FreeBSD will happen? Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Peter Wemm
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick, either. This is wise counsel. Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve some

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Marc Nicholas
Also, don't discount the possibility that Sun may be talking about this in order to achieve some leverage with the likes of (say) Microsoft. For example, If we don't get [xxx] from you, we'll do something to hurt your cash cow, MS Office.. Maybe I'm just being too cynical though, but I'll

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Christian Kuhtz
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 07:08:18AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: From a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make for some seriously bad press for Sun to state open source and then turn around and not do it? *raised eyebrow* Wouldn't cause them a second's pause. They wouldn't be the first

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Smc659
Heres what suns web page says: Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage industry-wide collaboration on future versions of the software. I

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 smc...@aol.com wrote: Heres what suns web page says: Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage industry-wide

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/8a24adf3.24fe9...@aol.com you write: Heres what suns web page says: Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.bsf.4.10.9909011100520.8660-100...@thelab.hub.org The Hermit Hacker writes: : From a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make for some seriously bad press : for Sun to state open source and then turn around and not do it? *raised : eyebrow* Those who don't know about history are

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Wes Peters
smc...@aol.com wrote: Heres what suns web page says: Our aim is to .com office productivity. We are publishing the StarOffice specifications and will make the source code available through the Sun Community Source Licensing program to encourage industry-wide collaboration on future

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-01 Thread Nate Williams
I have the feeling that Software Licensing Program speaks . You can read about the Sun Community Source License on their web site now. It is the same license that brings the JDK to FreeBSD. *NOT* As we read it (The JDK folks), the CSL doesn't allow us to release the JDK on FreeBSD, so