Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-24 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 07:03:25AM +0200 I heard the voice of Andreas Klemm, and lo! it spake thus: Most favourite example: I personally still get mad if it comes to the u undo key. I miss :N. You have to :split and then :n separately. Standard vi lets you toggle your last change by

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-24 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew D. Fuller wrote: Most favourite example: I personally still get mad if it comes to the u undo key. I miss :N. You have to :split and then :n separately. Do you mean :sn? cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /\ Work - Mac +++

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-23 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 02:08:40AM +0900, Sangwoo Shim wrote: Actually the first thing that I do after minimal installing of new system is to install vim from the ports tree. (in fact, installing cvsup, of course :-) I remember once upon a time someone (david?) made a suggestion that nvi in

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Danny Braniss
At 1:25 PM -0600 10/17/05, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer :history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dialup

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:25:32PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer : history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Steve Watt
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it [ snip reasons for becoming a VI user ] and according to documentation it has powerful editing mechanism. It is. So, my question goes to all FreeBSD

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, 2005-Oct-19 12:59:04 -0700, Steve Watt wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Does it have interface to gdb? And such other things..) ... I can't imagine why an editor should interface with gdb -- that's what other windows are for. When stepping through code, it's nice to have the

nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Oleg Petrov
Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable with it for some reasons: first, i use many different systems and emacs isn't default application for FreeBSD or any

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable with it for some reasons: first, i use many

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable with it for some reasons: first, i use many

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:49:20PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: I'd say s/nvi/vim (see http://www.vim.org/) if you want to really do everything with your Vi. Err, sorry for the cross-post :( Marc ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Sangwoo Shim
2005/10/17, Marc Fonvieille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer : history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dialup line in 1977 on a PDP-11 running RSTS/E on a

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Bruce R. Montague
Hi, (wondering off on a tangent), re: I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dialup line in 1977 on a PDP-11 running RSTS/E on a Behive... Around this time I think full-screen editors from DEC that took advantage of the VT-52 (and later VT-100) included KED, EDT, and

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:25 PM -0600 10/17/05, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer : history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dialup