Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2009-12-02 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 28/11/2008 15:12 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 27/11/2008 15:23 Andriy Gapon said the following: I increased debug level in uhub and also switched mouse and keyboard ports hoping that order might matter. It didn't. Here's fresh usbdevs output snippet: Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1:

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-28 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 27/11/2008 15:23 Andriy Gapon said the following: I increased debug level in uhub and also switched mouse and keyboard ports hoping that order might matter. It didn't. Here's fresh usbdevs output snippet: Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-27 Thread Andriy Gapon
Setting this issue on a technical trail now. 1. I built a kernel with USB_DEBUG enabled. BTW, there doesn't seem to be a way to set debug levels for USB subsystems at boot time, i.e. via hints. Or am I missing something? It seems that the levels can only be set via sysctl but that's too late for

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-27 Thread Andriy Gapon
I increased debug level in uhub and also switched mouse and keyboard ports hoping that order might matter. It didn't. Here's fresh usbdevs output snippet: Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), Intel(0x), rev 1.00 uhub2 port 1 addr 3: low

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: [snip] 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then I don't see any way USB keyboard would work in non-legacy way Regarding #2: at which stage? boot0/boot2/loader require an AT or

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:49:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 12/11/2008 14:33 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 15:21 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: I don't know what to say to ***ANY*** of the above, other than this: No one is doing anything about this problem because there does not appear to be a 100% reproducible always-screws-up-when-I-do-this scenario that happens to *every

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: System is FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 amd64. Looking through my dmesg I see that relative order of ukbd attachment and root mounting is not deterministic. Sometime keyboard is attached first, sometimes root filesystem is mounted first. Quite more

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Sergey Babkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What really needs to happen here should be obvious: we need some form of inexpensive keyboard-only USB support in boot2/loader. If I remember right, UnixWare used(s) the BIOS calls in the loader. So does

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 13:53 Nate Eldredge said the following: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: [...] I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to try a kernel without atkbd and psm (with ums, ukbd, kbdmux), but

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: [...] I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to try a kernel without atkbd and psm (with ums, ukbd, kbdmux), but was bitten hard when I made a mistake and kernel could not

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 12/11/2008 13:53 Nate Eldredge said the following: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: [...] I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: [snip] 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then I don't see any way USB keyboard would work in non-legacy way

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Martin
Am Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:21:24 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Until we settle down, stop replying to Emails with one-liner injections, and compile a list of test scenarios/cases that people can perform, and get these people to provide both 1) full hardware details, 2) full

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Sergey Babkin
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: What really needs to happen here should be obvious: we need some form of inexpensive keyboard-only USB support in boot2/loader. I would *love* to know how Linux and Windows solve this problem. If I remember right, UnixWare used(s) the BIOS calls in the loader. -SB

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 14:33 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: [snip] 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then I don't see